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<p class="MsoNormal">If the client (PR) truly believes that this creditor was not reasonably ascertainable, you don’t have to do anything. (No response needed.) It’s up to the creditor to push the matter and prove the client (PR) should have known about the
debt OR reasonably could have discovered the debt.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would not send 30 day notice unless the client (PR) has doubts whether the debt was reasonably ascertainable or not.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dalynne Singleton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 25, 2023 12:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Creditor for DC & Letters<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">In follow up and addition to this question and response, I have a client who had someone not reasonably ascertainable creditor. PR published and 4 months ran. Now, 8 months later, this new creditor has filed
a creditor claim.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Statute seems to require I send a copy of the Notice to Creditors and allow an additional 30 days to this creditor – or am I reading the statute wrong and the creditor is limited to 4 months from publication
whether reasonably ascertainable or not?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">If not, the statute appears to provide up to 2 years for this creditor given they were not reasonably ascertainable whether or not PR published.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">
<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Nelsen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 25, 2023 10:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Request from Creditor for DC & Letters<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I try to evaluate these situations carefully each time, but in general I have concluded that (1) the PR has no duty to provide information to a creditor beyond the statutory notice requirements, and (2) because of that, it’s not clear to
me that disclosure is impliedly authorized against the confidentiality presumption in RPC 1.6, so I’d need client authorization before providing.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And of course the PR asks me what to do, and I advise that there’s no duty to provide further information. Sometimes the PR says go ahead, sometimes they say ignore the request.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That said—on occasion if I’m concerned that I’m going to get saddled with a creditor claim on the wrong case and it will create an expensive mess to fix, or there are other factors involved, I advise the PR that it’s better to cooperate.
As Inge points out, sometimes there is a reason the Estate wants cooperation from the creditor.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ligatures:none">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ligatures:none">Eric<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ligatures:none">Eric C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">
<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Inge Fordham<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 25, 2023 10:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Request from Creditor for DC & Letters<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Decedent had a credit card with BECU. (He also had a checking account but the balance was nominal – and may now be overdrawn due to auto-scheduled payments). I sent BECU a Notice to Creditors. In response, BECU is requesting the certified
death certificate (which is on file with the court) and the letters testamentary (also on file with the court, obviously). I don’t believe I have any obligation to send BECU either document. I could see reason to be more cooperative if the decedent had multiple
accounts, PR needed access to a checking or savings account, etc. but that’s not the case. What do you do in these situations? I’m inclined to ignore the request (after notifying the client, of course).
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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