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<p class="MsoNormal">I also include the court and docket number in the deed. We use Simplifile. When I electronically record, I attach a copy of the letters to the REETA. In the exemption box, I cite the appropriate exemption and say “letters testamentary
attached.” The letters are not recorded. I’ve never had a deed returned with this method (knock on wood). The letters are there for referencing, if the recorder’s office wants to see them, and by recording electronically, my client isn’t charged another
$5 for a certified copy. I’m a BIG fan of Simplifile.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I vote with Heather and Bruce. The deed should tell the full story, with the docket number, but that is all that is necessary.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Similarly, I don’t record the letters but recite the same info as Bruce mentioned, on the face of the deed. Providing the Letters to document Personal Representative’s authority may be necessary for the REETA,
especially if you are claiming an inheritance exemption from excise tax. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bruce Moen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 20, 2023 10:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Recording PR Deeds with Letters Testamentary<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Jim,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have never attached the Letters, but I have always included a recital below the legal description. The recital is of the country and cause number and the date of the Order of Solvency and the grant of NPs.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The recital is basically for the title insurance company.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Bruce Moen<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Colleagues:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>For as long as I can remember, we have always recorded Letters Testamentary with PR Deeds. The PR Deed specifically references the Letters Testamentary “attached as Exhibit A.”<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Suddenly, in the past two weeks, we have had two PR Deeds that we mailed to two different counties recorded and returned to us without the Letters recorded. In both instances, the auditor kept the original Letters Testamentary, which cost us $5.00 and which
always have been recorded with the PR Deed and returned to us along with the original Deed. The recorded Deed was returned, with no explanation why they recorded the PR Deed without the Letters. The auditor also kept the full recording fee, even though
it included an extra $1.00 for the extra page. We now have two recorded documents that refer to an attachment that does not exist.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>What do others do when recording PR Deeds? Do you include the Letters Testamentary?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Jim Dolan<o:p></o:p></p>
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