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<blockquote type="cite">On Mar 16, 2023, at 12:15 PM, Anna Cashman <acashman@khbblaw.com> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Anna M. Cashman</span></i></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>michael westseattleattorney.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 16, 2023 11:03 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Hans’ presentation in Skamania.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span class="contentpasted0"><span style="color:#242424;background:white">Hi, If you are willing to send this, would you mind including my email? Thanks, Mike
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 15, 2023 2:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Homestead exemption wiping out creditors</span> <o:p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Hanna and Hans; please send copies of the current bill and Hans’ presentation in Skamania.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Anna Cashman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 13, 2023 2:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Homestead exemption wiping out creditors<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">For those of you who are following Washington laws, members of the WSBA RPPT Section and the executive committee have worked to craft Senate Bill 5589 with Senator Sanford, which is working its way through the legislature at this moment:
<a href="https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=5589&Initiative=false&Year=2023">
https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=5589&Initiative=false&Year=2023</a> It passed the Senate unanimously and is in committee in the House.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">For a great discussion on where the homestead exemption and family allowance protections currently stand, Hans Juhl did a great presentation at last year’s midyear meeting in Skamania on this topic. Therefore, it will not be a topic at
this year’s midyear.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Anna<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal" style="background:white"><b><i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Anna M. Cashman</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Tel (206) 382-4414 ext. 234 / Fax (206) 382-4412 / </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><a href="mailto:acashman@khbblaw.com"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">acashman@khbblaw.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brent Williams-Ruth<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 13, 2023 11:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Homestead exemption wiping out creditors<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">These are all questions I am curious about as well and am hoping that at the Mid-Year Section Meeting in Walla Walla in June.....we will get a panel that will talk about how this has been applied
since the change occurred. Fingers crossed!!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Brent Williams-Ruth</span></b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> (pronouns: he/him)<br>
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<p class="xmsonormal">On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 11:45 AM Eric Nelsen <<a href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Colleagues—I was just reviewing the <a href="https://wcrer.be.uw.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/60/2023/03/HMR-4Q2022-annual-medians.pdf" target="_blank">
median home price</a> in each county in Washington in reference to the family support (homestead) exemption under
<a href="https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.54&full=true" target="_blank">
Ch. 11.54 RCW</a>, and discovered that King County’s exemption amount is now approaching a million dollars: $914,300!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">This really has turned into a powerful way to preserve a lot of assets against creditors, even legitimate creditors who otherwise would be paid in the course of a creditor claim process. Back when it was only $125,000 it frequently didn’t
affect creditors because non-sheltered assets were still sufficient to pay all creditors, but these days I routinely handle estates of $1 million or less in assets where there is significant unsecured debt. Even just, say, $40,000 in credit cards, or co-signing
on a student loan for $100,000.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">So I’m wondering—is it being used more often now during probate administration? Has anyone seen pushback from the courts, or from creditors, on its use? Is there a federal regulation that prevents its use against a federal student loan?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">One thing I notice that isn’t really addressed: How to determine which county’s exemption amount should be applied for the decedent’s exemption. Let’s say the decedent was a resident of Snohomish County but the probate is filed in King
County. The statute doesn’t say which county should be used. I’d guess that a court would say Snohomish County was more appropriate, but: what about a Portland, Oregon resident who owns real property in King County
<i>and</i> Pacific County, and the probate is filed in Clark County?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">Eric<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><a href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com" target="_blank">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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