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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">At the risk of offending a whole boatload of colleagues on this list, I think it is incorrect to say this “will not” or “cannot” work. I think Phil has the right take all
around: probably doable; totally inadvisable; maybe consider this only the first of many risk-increasing requests by a client who thinks they can “do it themselves”; and decline altogether if they insist.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">But</span></u><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> as for technicalities and possibilities, the wills statute is not automatically incorporated
unless the trust somehow does so, I suppose. And, trust can be in handwriting, so amendments can be.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">So, if a lawyer wanted to do this and make it as “hopefully enforceable” as possible, I know of no reason a lawyer could not setup a document titled something like AMENDMENT
TO TRUST (optional to add a blank beforehand for words like FIRST, SECOND, etc., but that is risk-increasing and inconsistency-begging).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The first paragraph could contain the relevant recitations, blanks for “today’s” date (the date of the amendment) and state the desire to update the disposition of the residuary
trust estate, and then have a big blank box taking up 2/3 of the page that has precautionary language at the bottom like “all percentages must add up to ___% or this amendment will be deemed invalid.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">If the client understands why such a cautionary note is important (to make at least the most recently valid, or EXISTING document and dispositions valid)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Spaces for grantor(s) signature, and voila!, you have a perfectly enforceable trust amendment, unless someone knows something I don’t!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">As to cash gifts, you are correct that a letter of instruction won’t work. What I have done in a couple cases is one of the following:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">1. Leave a specific bequest of residuary to charitable organizations selected by the Successor Trustee (or in my case PR), who has complete discretion subject to
all gifts being made only to 501(c)(3) organizations. Then deduction is granted.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">2. Had 2 different clients set up donor advised funds, to be pass through entities, funded at death, with their initial list of charities and to work with the community
organization as changes were desired – the foundation doesn’t charge, I do and for one of my clients in particular, this has proved to be money and time saving.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Good luck.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia Pro",serif">I have had similar requests and advised against the concept. Because trusts need not comply with the Statute of Wills, I wonder if referencing the list of beneficiaries and
assets/Letter of Instruction in the Trust and attaching it as a schedule/exhibit to the Trust makes a difference?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Candace,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I’m interested to see if anyone has a contrary opinion, as I have had similar requests over the years, and have always advised clients that this is not a workable solution.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Candace Wilkerson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 27, 2023 10:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv' <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Listmates,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m curious how to deal with this one. We have a client who wants to leave their trust assets (not just small items of personal property, but financial accounts, etc.) strictly according to a separate Letter of Instructions. This includes
both specific gifts and the residuary trust estate. Most, if not all, of these beneficiaries will be charitable organizations.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have told the client that I think the distributions will need to be laid out specifically in the trust language itself, because a separate writing probably will not be legally binding. I’ve also told them that, of course, TOD accounts
can be designated for a specific charitable beneficiary and not transferred into the trust itself. But the client wants the separate Letter of Instructions because it’s more flexible than changing the terms of the trust when they want to add or delete a charitable
beneficiary.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Am I incorrect in believing that such a separate writing will
<u>not</u> be considered legally binding? Or is it enough to say in the trust that, after the Settlor’s death, “the trust estate will be distributed according to the Letter of Instructions dated ____ addressed to ______”?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for your thoughts.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
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