<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><span style="font-size: 14px;">I agree with your assessment of the timeliness.</span><div><span style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 14px;">They had 30 days from January 7 </span><span style="font-size: 14px;">to present the claim</span><span style="font-size: 14px;">, which is February 6. </span></div><div><span style="font-size: 14px;">The statute provides that the claim is deemed presented upon the latest of:</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 14px;">1. DELIVERY by postmark on the claim OR </span><span style="font-size: 14px;">service on PR or counsel; AND</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 14px;">2. FILING with the court.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 14px;">They were timely with delivery by the postmark of January 31, but they must also file within the timeframe, so if they did not get it filed yesterday then they are not timely.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 14px;">I had a case a few years ago just like this, where the creditor mailed the claim ten days prior to the statute but the clerkâs office for whatever reason did not receive it or process it in a timely way and they were out of luck. </span></div><div><span style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 14px;">I typically send the creditor<span style="text-align: justify;"> a copy of RCW 11.40.070(3) which specifically states that a claim must be presented within the time limits set in RCW 11.40.051 and explain that although the statute allows a Personal Representative to waive certain defects in the manner of presentation, the PR may not waive the requirement of timeliness.</span>. </span></div><div><span style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 14px;">Amy</span><br><div><div><div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: normal; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div><font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><i><br></i></font></div><div><font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><i><br></i></font></div><div><font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><i>Amy J. Goertz, J.D.</i></font></div><div><font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><i>Goertz & Lambrecht PLLC</i></font></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><a href="mailto:amyjgoertz@icloud.com">amyjgoertz@icloud.com</a> </div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><br></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">1.888.926.2607 phone<br>1.877.684.1627 fax<br><br></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Address for correspondence:</div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">2829 S. 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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Feb 7, 2023, at 11:16 AM, Brent Williams-Ruth <brent@williams-ruthlaw.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Greetings Respected Colleagues of Great Knowledge - </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">I am reading through RCW 11.40.070 - as one likes to do when there is a claim on the line....and I am seeking additional opinion. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Specifically, I am curious as to the language: <span style="font-family: "Open Sans", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; text-indent: 48px;">(3) A claim must be presented within the time limits set forth in RCW </span><a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.40.051" class="gmail-ui-link" style="box-sizing:border-box;color:rgb(43,103,77);font-weight:bold;text-decoration-line:none;font-family:"Open Sans",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;text-indent:48px">11.40.051</a><span style="font-family: "Open Sans", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; text-indent: 48px;"> by: (a) Serving on or mailing to, by regular first-class mail, the personal representative or the personal representative's attorney a copy of the signed claim; and (b) filing the original of the signed claim with the court in which probate proceedings were commenced. <b><u>A claim is deemed presented upon the later of the date of postmark or service on the personal representative, or the personal representative's attorney, and filing with the court.</u></b></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family: "Open Sans", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; text-indent: 48px;"><b><u><br></u></b></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family: "Open Sans", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; text-indent: 48px;">Here are my facts: Credit card debt of approximately $21,000. Actual notice sent to Company on January 7, 2023. </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family: "Open Sans", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; text-indent: 48px;"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family: "Open Sans", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; text-indent: 48px;">A creditor claim was mailed to my office (postmarked) January 31, 2023. It was received today - 31 days since original actual notice. </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family: "Open Sans", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; text-indent: 48px;"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family: "Open Sans", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; text-indent: 48px;">I have checked with the Court's website just now through KC Script - nothing has been filed since 2/1/2023. </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="text-indent:48px"><font face="Open Sans, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:16px">First question seeking confirmation: By my understanding, the notice to my office - even though it arrived 1 day late, is timely because it was mailed in a timely fashion. Correct?</span></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="text-indent:48px"><font face="Open Sans, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:16px"><br></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="text-indent:48px"><font face="Open Sans, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:16px">Second question seeking confirmation: Because the mailed version of the claim was not FILED with the Court by yesterday (assuming for the sake of argument that it just hasn't been scanned yet) the claim is untimely. </span></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="text-indent:48px"><font face="Open Sans, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:16px"><br></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="text-indent:48px"><font face="Open Sans, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:16px">Appreciate the insights. </span></font></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p><b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Brent
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