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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Amy Felt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 1, 2023 3:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">RE: Adapt Software<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I recently converted from ForeTrust to Adapt and I wish I had not.  There are a lot of kinks and issues.  I have not found support responsive to fixing the issues either.  The assembly of the documents is very buggy and I find I spend a
 lot of time going through the assembled document changing references or numbering that are off.  Support will respond quickly, but then things are not fixed or they say it is because you can't cut and paste into the software.  Some of the same grammatical
 issues that were in Foretrust are still in Adapt.  I wonder how often the documents are actually updated. I think you get what you pay for with Adapt.  I am looking at other options because it is wasting my time to have to correct sloppy issues/mistakes in
 the assembled documents.  I would be happy to discuss further off-line if anyone has questions.<o:p></o:p></p>
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   1. Re: WILLS TRUST AND ESTATE PLANNING SOFTWARE QUESTIONS<br>
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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 23:16:08 +0000<br>
From: Fern Herbert <<a href="mailto:fern@zenith-lawgroup.com" target="_blank">fern@zenith-lawgroup.com</a>><br>
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        QUESTIONS<br>
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Hello Colleagues,<br>
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I am considering a subscription to the new ADAPT cloud-based Estate Planning Software and I am wondering if anyone here has any experience that they are willing to share. Is the program reliable or are there kinks that need to be worked out? Is there reliable
 customer support to address issues?<br>
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Any input is much appreciated.<br>
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Fern Herbert<br>
Managing Attorney<br>
Zenith Law Group, PLLC<br>
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Estate planning software recommendation<br>
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Fore turned into Adapt ? we love it!  All states and regular rules updates!<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> on behalf of Fern Herbert <<a href="mailto:fern@zenith-lawgroup.com" target="_blank">fern@zenith-lawgroup.com</a>><br>
Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 6:26 AM<br>
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Estate planning software recommendation<br>
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Hi Candace,<br>
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Wealth Counsel is very good. A bit more expensive that Fore, but well worth it.<br>
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Fern Herbert<br>
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4320 196th St. SW B-712<br>
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Lynnwood, WA  98036<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> on behalf of Candace Wilkerson <<a href="mailto:cwilkerson@wongfleming.com" target="_blank">cwilkerson@wongfleming.com</a>><br>
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My long-term estate planning software program, Foretrust, has turned into a monthly subscription plan with (apparently) lots of problems.  And we would prefer not to pay for a monthly subscription, just a software program with yearly updates.  We need a plan
 that has all 50 states..  Any referrals for a decent company that provides basic document drafting plus irrevocable trusts?<br>
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Thanks for any thoughts, and apologies if this has been discussed recently; I don?t remember if so.<br>
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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 23:35:21 +0000<br>
From: Candace Wilkerson <<a href="mailto:cwilkerson@wongfleming.com" target="_blank">cwilkerson@wongfleming.com</a>><br>
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>,<br>
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] WILLS TRUST AND ESTATE PLANNING SOFTWARE<br>
        QUESTIONS<br>
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Hi Fern,<br>
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We are now using Adapt.  Feel free to email me off-list for more information.<br>
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Best,<br>
Candace Wilkerson<br>
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] WILLS TRUST AND ESTATE PLANNING SOFTWARE QUESTIONS<br>
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Hello Colleagues,<br>
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I am considering a subscription to the new ADAPT cloud-based Estate Planning Software and I am wondering if anyone here has any experience that they are willing to share. Is the program reliable or are there kinks that need to be worked out? Is there reliable
 customer support to address issues?<br>
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Any input is much appreciated.<br>
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Estate planning software recommendation<br>
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Subject: [WSBAPT] Estate planning software recommendation<br>
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My long-term estate planning software program, Foretrust, has turned into a monthly subscription plan with (apparently) lots of problems.  And we would prefer not to pay for a monthly subscription, just a software program with yearly updates.  We need a plan
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Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2023 00:36:00 +0000<br>
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Looking for someone who can assist in an estate matter involving a loan taken out (inappropriately) by a beneficiary of an estate and rights of property owners as against the title company - I don't belong to RP section apparently so if anyone wants to send
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On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 4:41 PM Diane J. Kiepe <<a href="mailto:DJKiepe@depdslaw.com" target="_blank">DJKiepe@depdslaw.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Looking for someone who can assist in an estate matter involving a loan<br>
> taken out (inappropriately) by a beneficiary of an estate and rights of<br>
> property owners as against the title company ? I don?t belong to RP section<br>
> apparently so if anyone wants to send this on there feel free.<br>
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Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2023 17:43:04 +0000<br>
From: Candace Wilkerson <<a href="mailto:cwilkerson@wongfleming.com" target="_blank">cwilkerson@wongfleming.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] referral<br>
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Hi Diane,<br>
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Where would this be, and is the client the personal representative of the estate?<br>
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Candace<br>
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Subject: [WSBAPT] referral<br>
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Looking for someone who can assist in an estate matter involving a loan taken out (inappropriately) by a beneficiary of an estate and rights of property owners as against the title company - I don't belong to RP section apparently so if anyone wants to send
 this on there feel free.<br>
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Diane J. Kiepe<br>
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Diane J. Kiepe<br>
Douglas Eden<br>
717 W. Sprague Ave.<br>
Suite 1500<br>
Spokane, WA  99201<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2023 10:10:23 -0800<br>
From: Lynn Clare <<a href="mailto:lynnclare@clarelawfirm.com" target="_blank">lynnclare@clarelawfirm.com</a>><br>
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Subject: [WSBAPT] Language for TODD to minor beneficiary<br>
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I believe it is possible to name a minor (or minors) as beneficiary of a<br>
TODD.  Do you name the custodian in the deed? How have you handled the fact<br>
that the "minor" might not be a minor at the date of the grantor's death?<br>
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Lynn Clare<br>
Clare Law Firm, PLLC<br>
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