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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jamia Burns<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 20, 2023 6:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">If you have a will to back it up, then a title company will definitely accept a lack of probate affidavit. I usually record a lack of probate affidavit along with a redacted death certificate and a cover sheet
with the legal description of the property at the county auditor's office. Then follow up with the assessor's office to make sure they updated the computer system to show that the surviving spouse is the sole owner. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 5:00 PM Ann Manley <<a href="mailto:ann@manleyfirm.com">ann@manleyfirm.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There was a will. Is RCW 11.04.015 applicable?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:38 PM John McCrady <<a href="mailto:j.mccrady@pstitle.com" target="_blank">j.mccrady@pstitle.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Under RCW 11.04.015 the wife receives “all of the decedent’s share of the net community estate”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Under RCW 11.04.250 the title “<span style="color:black;background:white">shall vest in the heirs or devisees instantly
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">So there is no probate necessary for the title to vest in the surviving spouse. That happens automatically at death.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 20, 2023 4:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Community property real estate<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">House is name of husband and wife. Bought while married, so community property. Husband dies, there is no community property agreement, so is probate necessary to put title in wife's
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