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<p class="MsoNormal">That if the deceased was on private pay insurance or on Medicare there will always be a portion of hospital care that is not paid by insurance and I would argue this is common knowledge also hospitals are notoriously slow in getting out
those billings because of the time it takes them to get any reimbursement and they cant charge the deficiency until that is resolved therefore any provider of last illness healthcare is a reasonably ascertainable creditor.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joshua McKarcher<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 6, 2023 10:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Creditor Claim from Hospital<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Well, since nobody else is biting
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">😉</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> . . . If the decedent was in that hospital in the 6-12 months before death, and any review of the decedent’s
records and papers would have shown a statement or insurance EOB with hospital’s name on it, I am afraid my position would be they were reasonably ascertainable and should have been provided actual notice.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">If they last left that hospital 2 years ago never to return; or if there was no trace of the hospital’s recent provision of services in any of the decedent’s papers, then
I suppose you could win the argument.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">That’s my best take. Good luck! Best, Josh
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Decedent died in May. They had been sick and treating for cancer prior to death. Executor begins the creditor period and publishes the Notice to Creditors. Sends out copious known creditor letters
but NEVER received anything from the hospital - not an invoice, not an EOB, not a single statement. Nothing. Creditor period ended in October. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Hospital sends invoice at the end of December. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Are they reasonably ascertainable? The executor had presumed since it has been nearly 7 months since the date of death without a single letter/invoice/statement that insurance must have captured
everything. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">My argument that they were not reasonably ascertainable but curious if anyone has encountered this and the position taken. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Thank you!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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