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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 5, 2023 10:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Heirs of deceased Heir</font>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Eric,</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I think this is simpler than your analysis suggests. It sounded like two of the grantees of the TODD were husband and wife, the brother and sister-in-law of the grantor. They both failed to survive the grantor,
 so now the other two grantees are the sole inheritors of the property.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Mike, did I misunderstand your facts?</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Heather</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt; font-family:"Vladimir Script"; color:#1F497D">Heather S. de Vrieze</span><b><span style="font-size:16.0pt; color:#1F497D"><br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Nelsen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 5, 2023 9:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Heirs of deceased Heir</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Whoops—second issue is the TODD. See <a href="https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.80&full=true#64.80.100">
RCW 64.80.100(4)</a>, which I’m not sure I fully understand. It appears to say that a TODD, if executed by only one spouse on community property, IS effective to transfer to the beneficiary. However, I don’t think that addresses the problem of priority between
 the CPA and the TODD. In my experience, courts have given CPAs very strong effect, and treat them as contracts that cannot be unilaterally abandoned by one of the spouses merely by making an alternative disposition of cp in a Will or other instrument executed
 after the CPA was executed. There’s a lot of case law on that question, in a lot of contexts. A good starting point is WSBA Community Property Deskbook, Ch. 4.17 on CPAs, and Ch. 5.1 on agreements as to character of property in general.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Sincerely,</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Eric</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Eric C. Nelsen</p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Sayre Law Offices, PLLC</p>
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</b>All attorneys are working remotely during regular business hours and are available via email and by phone. Videoconferencing also is available. Signing of estate planning documents can be completed and will be handled on a case-by-case basis. Please direct
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Eric Nelsen <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 5, 2023 9:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Heirs of deceased Heir</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Law school exam! How I don’t miss those.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">It sounds like, I think: H dies, married to W, with a Community Property Agreement. I’m guessing it’s a three-prong agreement that says everythng they own is cp, everything they acquire thereafter is cp, and at death of one the other
 inherits all cp? In that case, all property passed to W upon H’s death, and H’s will shouldn’t enter into things at all. Or is there some property that didn’t get captured by the Community Property Agreement?</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Sincerely,</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Eric</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Eric C. Nelsen</p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Sayre Law Offices, PLLC</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Seattle WA 98144-3909</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">
wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>michael westseattleattorney.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 5, 2023 8:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Heirs of deceased Heir</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:black; background:white">Decedent dies testate and is survived by sister who he disinherits. His brother died a couple years ago and left a son. Will specifically says deceased brother's
 share would lapse if he predeceased him. So that is simple; but </span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:black">Decedent had executed and recorded a Transfer on Death Deed giving his real estate
<span class="x_fluidplugincopy"><span style="background:white">as tenants in common, </span></span>to his deceased brother, his deceased brother's wife, and two friends.  Would the heirs of the deceased brother take his share of the real property? If yes, since
 he had a Community Property Agreement with his wife who died a year after he died, would wife's heirs take instead or are they subject to the Wills lapse language? </span></p>
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