<div dir="ltr">It's a bit more rudimentary than a paid service or skip tracing but I have found great luck with <a href="http://familytreenow.com">familytreenow.com</a>.  YMMV but if you have a great deal of information about family members and last known locations there are addresses and phone numbers that you can call.<div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Christopher G. Britt, M.A., J.D.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Attorney at Law</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><img width="200" height="36" src="https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4wMRe_ukoUDSfEk1B9GOtzEv1ZmETJ5W4aT8G-i1q6fL7AkhPL9-7Q-uOEqpeS39zB_6R0N47HVfeKJTfKSM6im7XYlsivfchznVeSWqQ" style="width:2.0833in;height:0.375in"></span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">1403 S. Grand Blvd., Suite 201-S</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Spokane, WA 99203-2278</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><br>P: 509.455.3713<br>D: </span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">509.316.2131</span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><br>F: +1.509.455.3718 (must dial 1 before area code)</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">E: </span><u><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(17,85,204)"><a href="mailto:christopher@lucentlaw.com" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">christopher@lucentlaw.com</a></span></u><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Web: <a href="http://www.lucentlaw.com/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">www.lucentlaw.com</a></span></p></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 12:12 PM Sharon Rutberg <<a href="mailto:sharon@salmonbaylaw.com">sharon@salmonbaylaw.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">We have used Von Langen search service with good results. <br>
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   1. I need help locating a missing beneficiary (Kerry Brink)<br>
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   4. Re: I need help locating a missing beneficiary (Nick Pleasants)<br>
   5. Mexico Religious Wedding Ceremony - valid in US as        marriage?<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 00:24:04 +0000<br>
From: Kerry Brink <<a href="mailto:Kbrink@vjglaw.com" target="_blank">Kbrink@vjglaw.com</a>><br>
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Subject: [WSBAPT] I need help locating a missing beneficiary<br>
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Any referrals to help us in locating a missing beneficiary would be much appreciated.<br>
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Thank you so much!<br>
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Kerry Brink<br>
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Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 16:29:18 -0800 (PST)<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 16:46:41 -0800<br>
From: Christopher  Neil <<a href="mailto:chris.neil@neillaw.com" target="_blank">chris.neil@neillaw.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] I need help locating a missing beneficiary<br>
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Hello Kerry, <br>
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My office has had good luck with Roy Rutherford of Special Investigations of Washington.<br>
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> Any referrals to help us in locating a missing beneficiary would be much appreciated.<br>
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> Thank you so much!<br>
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Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 00:47:12 +0000<br>
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Kerry,<br>
Try <a href="https://www.heirsearch.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.heirsearch.com/</a> or <a href="https://www.missingheir.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.missingheir.com/</a> I know the name sounds cheesy, but both are good reputable companies that I have used. They can often find the heir if they are still alive in the US. If not, they'll give you a report you can submit to court as proof of the executor's commercially reasonable attempt to locate the heir. Expect to pay about $1,500-$2,000 for a domestic search, or $4,000-$5,000 for international depending on the country. It is billed hourly, they usually ask for a deposit of the full quote upfront, and if the heir is easy to locate, they'll refund the unused deposit.<br>
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Any referrals to help us in locating a missing beneficiary would be much appreciated.<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 16:43:45 +0000<br>
From: Dalynne Singleton <<a href="mailto:dalynne@glgmail.com" target="_blank">dalynne@glgmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: [WSBAPT] Mexico Religious Wedding Ceremony - valid in US as<br>
        marriage?<br>
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I have new clients and their father married their stepmother in Mexico 20 years ago in a religious ceremony.  They do not know if they followed up with a civil ceremony.<br>
Can someone tell me if that is considered a valid marriage in the US if there was never any US civil ceremony?  The stepmother was not a US citizen at time of marriage service in Mexico but later became a US citizen.<br>
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>From my understanding the civil ceremony is fully valid for legal purposes here in the United States only if a couple who has a religious ceremony in Mexico, also had the civil ceremony to make it legal in the US.<br>
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Thank you.<br>
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Dalynne Singleton<br>
Gourley Law Group<br>
Snohomish Escrow<br>
The Exchange Connection<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 08:56:46 -0800<br>
From: <<a href="mailto:Jeff@bellanddavispllc.com" target="_blank">Jeff@bellanddavispllc.com</a>><br>
To: "'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv'" <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
Subject: [WSBAPT] Can a Canadian Citizen be a Witness to a Washington<br>
        Will<br>
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This is a snow issue!  Clients really want to sign their Wills today, although there is a lot of snow on the ground and more coming.  My usual second witness cannot make it in.  Available is a visitor from Canada.  Can that person witness?  The statute just says a Will must be witnessed by two "competent" people.  It says nothing about them being US citizens or even a resident.  Have any of you dealt with the problem.<br>
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Jeff Davis<br>
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W. Jeff Davis<br>
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BELL & DAVIS PLLC<br>
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Attorneys at Law<br>
P.O. Box 510<br>
<br>
720 E. Washington Street, Suite 105<br>
Sequim WA 98382<br>
Phone: (360) 683.1129<br>
Fax: (360) 683.1258<br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 17:08:01 +0000<br>
From: Roger Hawkes <<a href="mailto:roger@skyvalleylawyers.com" target="_blank">roger@skyvalleylawyers.com</a>><br>
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        Washington      Will<br>
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Subject: [WSBAPT] Can a Canadian Citizen be a Witness to a Washington Will<br>
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This is a snow issue!  Clients really want to sign their Wills today, although there is a lot of snow on the ground and more coming.  My usual second witness cannot make it in.  Available is a visitor from Canada.  Can that person witness?  The statute just says a Will must be witnessed by two "competent" people.  It says nothing about them being US citizens or even a resident.  Have any of you dealt with the problem.<br>
<br>
Jeff Davis<br>
<br>
W. Jeff Davis<br>
BELL & DAVIS PLLC<br>
Attorneys at Law<br>
P.O. Box 510<br>
720 E. Washington Street, Suite 105<br>
Sequim WA 98382<br>
Phone: (360) 683.1129<br>
Fax: (360) 683.1258<br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 18:11:01 +0000<br>
From: Katie Smith Patel <<a href="mailto:katie@paracletelaw.com" target="_blank">katie@paracletelaw.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Mexico Religious Wedding Ceremony - valid in US<br>
        as      marriage?<br>
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According to a quick Google search, your understanding appears to be generally correct:<br>
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<a href="https://mx.usembassy.gov/marriage/#:~:text=Mexican%20official%20translator.-,In%20Mexico%2C%20only%20civil%20marriage%20is%20recognized%20as%20legal" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mx.usembassy.gov/marriage/#:~:text=Mexican%20official%20translator.-,In%20Mexico%2C%20only%20civil%20marriage%20is%20recognized%20as%20legal</a>.,replaces%20the%20obligatory%20civil%20marriage.<br>
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But it would seem the civil ceremony could have occurred in either Mexico or the US for the marriage to be legally recognized in the US.  Perhaps there will be a record in whatever state in Mexico they resided in, if they had a civil marriage there.<br>
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Katie Patel<br>
Paraclete Estate Planning, LLC<br>
(323) 356-4886<br>
112 Genessee Street<br>
Medford, OR 97504<br>
(working remotely from Snohomish, WA)<br>
Licensed in CA, OR, and WA<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> On Behalf Of Dalynne Singleton<br>
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2022 8:44 AM<br>
To: 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv' <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
Subject: [WSBAPT] Mexico Religious Wedding Ceremony - valid in US as marriage?<br>
Importance: High<br>
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I have new clients and their father married their stepmother in Mexico 20 years ago in a religious ceremony.  They do not know if they followed up with a civil ceremony.<br>
Can someone tell me if that is considered a valid marriage in the US if there was never any US civil ceremony?  The stepmother was not a US citizen at time of marriage service in Mexico but later became a US citizen.<br>
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>From my understanding the civil ceremony is fully valid for legal purposes here in the United States only if a couple who has a religious ceremony in Mexico, also had the civil ceremony to make it legal in the US.<br>
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Thank you.<br>
<br>
Dalynne Singleton<br>
Gourley Law Group<br>
Snohomish Escrow<br>
The Exchange Connection<br>
1002 10th Street / PO Box 1091<br>
Snohomish, WA 98291<br>
360.568.5065<br>
360.568.1717  fax<br>
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