<div dir="auto">Thank you Jennifer, et al.  </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">She (and her brother) were adamant they would refuse to manage disposition due to extreme abuse and abandonment.  A phone call from the examiner’s office attempting to guilt her as surviving daughter, and alluding to taxpayers footing the bill, was not helpful.  </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I do think I found the answer. In reference to <span style="font-family:Georgia,serif">RCW 68.50.160,  and vesting of right to control disposition, </span>Braun v. Selig defined “vest” as a <b style="border-color:rgb(0,0,0)">discretionary</b> right to make a decision respecting a particular right. By implication, the vested right to dispose may be refused. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In a follow up phone call with the medical examiner’s representative, the rep confirmed my client could refuse to exercise that right. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Bo Weintraub </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 2:58 PM Jennifer L White <<a href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com">jen@appletreelaw.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">





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<p class="MsoNormal">I too saw your post, so it’s getting through, but like the others who have responded, I don’t have any definitive experience to share. I have dealt occasionally with the opposite with various players vying for authority to control disposition.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Setting aside the statutory authorities and putting on my counselor at law hat I will leave you with these comments – At this point and in the aftermath, what will bring your client the most personal mental closure? Telling the authorities
 to “cram it” and make me pay? I have never personally known of a family member being made to pay, not to say that is authority in any way; OR stepping up and paying a few hundred dollars for a simple cremation as a final act of self-care for the client’s benefit
 to bring a history of familial unhappiness to some semblance of closure? I don’t know the right answer, but I would have a discussion of this sort with the client FWIW
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Script MT Bold"">Jennifer L. White, Esq.</span>                             
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joshua McKarcher<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 7, 2022 2:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-owner@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-owner@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Fwd: Relative's obligation to dispose of remains<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Hi Boaz,<u style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"></u><u style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">FYI, I received it on the listserv on Tuesday 6th, so your posts are working. I just don’t have any insight/experience beyond the statutes, as I suspect others may not.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Boaz Weintraub<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 7, 2022 3:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Fwd: Relative's obligation to dispose of remains<u></u><u></u></p>
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From: <strong><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Boaz Weintraub</span></strong> <<a href="mailto:bw@weintraub-law.com" target="_blank">bw@weintraub-law.com</a>><br>
Date: Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 3:48 PM<br>
Subject: Relative's obligation to dispose of remains<br>
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:WSBAPT@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">WSBAPT@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">A client's mother recently passed in Spokane. They had a very poor relationship, and she does not want to be financially responsible for disposal.   She died without a will or any
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">However, RCW 68.50.160 provides the right to  control disposition vests in a "majority of the children", and it is the duty of disposition and liability for the reasonable cost
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