<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">I have no problem with 11.114, have done that and expected that it would go into a blocked account. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br>I have just never had anyone REQUIRE a full conservatorship appointment. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Total amount of the benefit is $7,500. </div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p><b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Brent
Williams-Ruth</span></b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> (pronouns: he/him)<br>
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Offices of Brent Williams-Ruth, </span></b><b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><font size="1">a division of BWR Consulting, PLLC</font></span></b><b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"></span></b></p><p><b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Physical Address: 500 S 336th Street, Suite 214; Federal
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</p><p><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><a href="mailto:Brent@Williams-RuthLaw.com" target="_blank">e-mail</a> / <a href="http://www.williams-ruthlaw.com/" target="_blank">website</a> /</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> </span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/bwrlaw" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">facebook</span></a></span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> / </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"></span></p></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 5:13 PM Nick Pleasants <<a href="mailto:npleasants@ohswlaw.com">npleasants@ohswlaw.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-9161179516942086653">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Brent,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">That is business as usual. The surviving parent is not automatically the child’s conservator for purposes of claiming insurance benefits. I have done lots of minor conservatorships for life insurance of a deceased parent. It’s pretty streamlined
so you don’t need a CV Report. Under the old law, I could get the parent appointed simultaneously with filing the Petition. I think it should be similar under the new law, but haven’t filed one since Jan 1, 2022. Sometimes you can get the life insurance company
to accept appointment of a custodian under 11.114, sometimes they refuse.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">There are some important protections in conservatorship, which depending on the size of the funds, make complete sense. The conservator is going to be required to block the funds in excess of $3,000 or obtain a bond. Absent extenuating
circumstances, the money should stay blocked until the child’s 18<sup>th</sup> birthday. Generally life insurance funds will not be used to pay for minor child’s care because whoever is raising the child can claim the social security benefit for the child.
I actually think this works really well because otherwise surviving parent may be tempted to spend it.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best, <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I have a situation where my Executor has been told by a National Life Insurance carrier that we need “certified guardianship/conservatorship papers for the estate of the minor including Letters
of Guardianship/Conservatorship and the supporting Court Order appointing the guardian/conservator.”<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I am used to getting an order for custodian transfer under 11.76 and 11.114....but I am curious as to their demand for a guardianship/conservatorship when the surviving spouse is also the biological
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<p class="MsoNormal">Appreciate thoughts and insights. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Brent Williams-Ruth</span></b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> (pronouns: he/him)<br>
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<p><b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Law Offices of Brent Williams-Ruth, </span></b><b><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">a division of BWR Consulting, PLLC</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
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