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<div dir="ltr">Thanks Fern. What statute are you referring to? </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Sarah's client needs to understand that signing a trust -- which can be created by handwriting on a blank piece of paper if it "must" be -- may not have its intended effect unless either (1) the trust is funded before her death with her bank
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<div dir="ltr">But the latter is distinct from a statutory requirement that a trustor have a will for her trust to be valid. The trustor's trust is maybe not very "useful," but I don't understand how it is invalid.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">If no notary is available, but two qualified witnesses are available, UNLESS I AM FORGETTING or MISSING SOMETHING, a trust can be implemented by trustor’s signature; and she could handwrite a simple will (or execute an elaborate computer printed
will) leaving her estate to the trust and have two people witness her signature on the will. It could even be self-proven if the witnesses sign unsworn certifications as we have had in our state’s law for some time now. (Handwritten wills are fine, so long
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There needs to be a pour over Will to be compliant with the state statute requirements of actually having a Will. The Pour Over Will is not just a catch all for effects left out of the Trust. </div>
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<div>I don’t think either of those statements are correct. Revocable trusts need not be notarized, and they are valid and enforceable with or without a pourover wIll, although a pourover will is advisable if any assets are inadvertently left out of the trust.</div>
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The Living Trust needs to be Notarized, but you also need to do a Last Will and Testament " aka a "Pour Over Will" with the Trust, and that requires two Witnesses as per state statute. Otherwise, the Trust will not be valid. </div>
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<span style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">I seem to recall that a Living Trust does
<u>not</u> need to be witnessed or notarized to be effective. But I cannot find anything in the RCWs that confirms my recollection? I have a client in hospital who needs to execute her Living Trust this weekend, and she is having difficulty finding a mobile
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<span style="font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">Can anyone confirm this for me?</span></p>
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