<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">In my case DSHS has a pre-death 6-figure claim. Probate Notice to Creditors was sent to OFR with all of the proper ID for the Decedent. 5 months later, no reply. The estate is ready to close. How can a PR pay a claim in which the Creditor is not responding? It’s a frustrating situation because I anticipate OFR will come back after the estate is closed and demand repayment from the heirs - which are charities. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I don’t want to buy a future lawsuit for the heirs, but OFR is non-responsive. </div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 30, 2022, at 9:08 AM, Roger Hawkes <<a href="mailto:roger@skyvalleylawyers.com" class="">roger@skyvalleylawyers.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The state (the ‘king’) is generally not subject to statutes of limitation and factual claims like adverse possession. My hope is the state has somewhere agreed to be bound by the four month limitation for creditors’ claims, but I don’t know if that has occurred.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" class="">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" class="">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Diane J. Kiepe<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, August 29, 2022 4:07 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" class="">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [WSBAPT] Dept of Revenue slow?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 16pt;" class="">This appears to be the million dollar 2022 question. I have gotten an e-mail (as has a colleague of mine Jennifer White who posted her) that we were getting turned over to the AG because DSHS basically doesn’t have to the follow the rules. So far, I’ve not heard from the AG and quite frankly, the federal statute the DSHS representative cited did not appear to have anything to do with claims of DSHS. I transferred the property to the PR/Beneficiary who is aware of this claim as well. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 16pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 16pt;" class="">If anything happens, I’ll be sure to share it with the listserve. Really, how can they not be tied to a very specific creditor time period? That is nonsensical to me.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 16pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><i class=""><span style="font-family: "Script MT Bold";" class="">Diane J. Kiepe<o:p class=""></o:p></span></i></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><i class=""><span style="font-family: "Script MT Bold";" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></i></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Diane J. Kiepe<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Douglas Eden<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">717 W. Sprague Ave.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Suite 1500<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Spokane, WA 99201<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="mailto:djkiepe@depdslaw.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" class="">djkiepe@depdslaw.com</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">509-455-5300<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 16pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" class="">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" class="">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Joshua Grant<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, August 29, 2022 4:01 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" class="">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[WSBAPT] Dept of Revenue slow?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a name="OLE_LINK1" class=""></a><a name="OLE_LINK2" class=""><span class="">I am handling an estate where the PR thought a Medicaid lien should exist. We are over 4 months since we mailed the Notice to Creditors (including decedent’s social security number), and we haven’t heard anything yet. How long has it been taking to OFR to respond to Notice to Creditors?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></a></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><span class="">If no lien shows on a title report on the residence, I assume we are clear to sell the residence without further notice to DSHS?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><span class="">Josh<o:p class=""></o:p></span></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><span class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 18pt; color: rgb(0, 64, 128);" class="">Joshua F. Grant</span></b></span></span><span class=""><span class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(0, 64, 128);" class=""><br class=""></span></span></span><span class=""><span class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><span id="cid:image001.png@01D8BC50.1A0F3740"><image001.png></span></span></span></span><span class=""><span class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><br class=""></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 64, 128);" class="">P. O. Box 619<br class="">Wilbur, WA 99185<br class="">509 647 5578<o:p class=""></o:p></span></span></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><span class=""></span></span><a href="mailto:jgrant@advocateslg.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span class=""><span class="">jgrant@advocateslg.com</span></span><span class=""><span class=""></span></span></a><span class=""></span><span class=""></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 64, 128);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">***Disclaimer: Please note that RPPT listserv participation is not restricted to practicing attorneys and may include non-practicing attorneys, law students, professionals working in related fields, and others.***</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">WSBAPT mailing list</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""><a href="mailto:WSBAPT@lists.wsbarppt.com" class="">WSBAPT@lists.wsbarppt.com</a></span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbapt" class="">http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbapt</a></span></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></body></html>