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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Great ideas! I have found contact information for the actual legal department and spoke with the Bank attorney via LinkedIn of all </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">places! No hassle no court order. It's nice to speak with someone</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">who actually knows the law!</div><div><br></div>
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On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 06:08:16 PM PDT, Diane J. Kiepe <djkiepe@depdslaw.com> wrote:
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<p class="yiv5435056781MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;">I see this is more true with east coast banks – so much time, money and emotional energy wasted!</span></p>
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<p class="yiv5435056781MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:MT;">Diane J. Kiepe</span></i></p>
<p class="yiv5435056781MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:MT;"> </span></i></p>
<p class="yiv5435056781MsoNormal">Diane J. Kiepe</p>
<p class="yiv5435056781MsoNormal">Douglas Eden</p>
<p class="yiv5435056781MsoNormal">717 W. Sprague Ave.</p>
<p class="yiv5435056781MsoNormal">Suite 1500</p>
<p class="yiv5435056781MsoNormal">Spokane, WA 99201</p>
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<p class="yiv5435056781MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Inge Fordham<br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 17, 2022 4:11 PM<br clear="none">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Estate access to co-owned safe deposit box</p>
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<p class="yiv5435056781MsoNormal">Man, talk about a waste of time and money. That’s unfortunate.</p>
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<p class="yiv5435056781MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;"><<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> on behalf of Brent Williams-Ruth <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:brent@williams-ruthlaw.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:brent@williams-ruthlaw.com">brent@williams-ruthlaw.com</a>><br clear="none">
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 3:59 PM<br clear="none">
<b>To: </b>WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br clear="none">
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [WSBAPT] Estate access to co-owned safe deposit box</span></p>
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<p class="yiv5435056781MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;">I have encountered this countless times. I throw my hands up and just got get the Court order and return the PR with it - and yes, I do the full bells and whistles of an exemplified order and
make it clear that under the ORDER OF THE COURT they must IMMEDIATELY GRANT ACCESS to the PR. Then they step aside. </span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-family:New serif;">Brent Williams-Ruth</span></b><span style="font-family:New serif;"> (pronouns: he/him)<br clear="none">
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<p class="yiv5435056781MsoNormal">On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 3:30 PM Eric Nelsen <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p style="" class="yiv5435056781MsoNormal">Decedent and decedent’s sister are both named on a safe deposit box in Seattle at Chase Bank. The living sister is 90+ years old, infirm, and lives in another state. The PR has
the key, has Letters Testamentary, and wants access—and Chase is telling him he needs either a court order or written permission from the sister.</p>
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<p style="" class="yiv5435056781MsoNormal">I have never encountered this problem. The decedent never needed permission to access their own sd box; why should the PR? Am I missing something? Am I blinded by my usual rage
at the endless bank bureaucracy that never allows me to talk to the legal department but insists that their stupid position be transmitted to me via a hapless and innocent teller?</p>
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<p style="" class="yiv5435056781MsoNormal">Sincerely,</p>
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<p style="" class="yiv5435056781MsoNormal">Eric</p>
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