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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Zeno<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 6, 2022 12:49 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#002060">In re Earls, 164 Wn. App. 447 deals with this issue to some degree. Holds that claims must be filed for contingent liabilities—in that case a lease guarantee—and
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brent Williams-Ruth<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Unmarried partner inheriting real property - mortgage terms<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">My immediate thought is to deny this as a valid creditor's claim. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">*disclaimer* I have not litigated this issue in a creditor's claim so I may be entirely off-base. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">But I operate under the presumption that a creditor's claim is a claim against the estate that, if valid, must be satisfied before you can proceed forward and eventually close the estate. Because
of the Garn-St. Germain Act, (presuming they are valid under those terms and conditions), this is not a valid creditor's claim as the statute allows for the mortgage to continue under that law. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I might try to make a few phone calls to talk with someone at that institution (preferably their legal department) to try and get this resolved. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">But the bottom line is that I have operated my estates in such a manner that if there is a claim filed - we must resolve it one way or another - before we can move forward. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 1:30 PM Natalie Kuehler <<a href="mailto:nk@kuehlerlaw.com">nk@kuehlerlaw.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Chaparral Pro"">I just had an spouse who is taking real property as community property and the lender filed a creditor’s claim, even though
the surviving spouse is already named on the loan documents and of course the loan is secured by a deed of trust. I’m told a creditor’s claim was filed because “we
</span><span style="color:black">had issues in the past with remedies being waived when a secured creditor did not do so. However, we take the position that the loan is current and should continue to be paid in the normal course, notwithstanding the claim;
we do not intend to foreclose or pursue other remedies unless the loan falls into default on a future date.”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Chaparral Pro"">I’m not sure what I need to do with the claim. We don’t dispute there’s a valid mortgage that needs to be paid on time
and that the deed of trust encumbers the property. So do I just let the creditor’s claim sit there? Or do we enter into an agreement regarding the continued validity of the mortgage? I had proposed the lender just have the spouse assume the loan on her own
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
on behalf of Diane J. Kiepe <<a href="mailto:DJKiepe@depdslaw.com" target="_blank">DJKiepe@depdslaw.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 12:59 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">I have a son who is inheriting land and the credit union said he has to “assume” the loan. I had never heard that term and told the PR to make sure
the heir understands what he is signing. In the end, I think the heir may refi to pull out some equity anyway but, it just struck me as odd – of course, I still learn something and hear something new everyday!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brent Williams-Ruth<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 30, 2022 8:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Unmarried partner inheriting real property - mortgage terms<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I do not hold any belief to be an expert on the Garn-St. Germain act, but there are specific provisions pertaining to the "due on sale"
clause. The fact that they are not married, I would believe, kicks this into a (d)(3) situation - </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333">a transfer by devise, descent, or operation of law on the death of a joint
tenant or tenant by the entirety; - but as you can see the requirement is that they were joint tenants on the title. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333">Normally, I would agree with everything Dalynne says....however, I have a current probate where the
note is held by US Bank (yes, I am naming names) and they are being VERY AGGRESSIVE to obtain proof that the person who is inheriting will be doing so under the terms of the Act.....I believe that with the mortgage rates rising substantially that we are going
to see many more banks take interest in following the strict letter of the Act because they would love nothing more to either a) refinance to a higher interest rate or b) have the property sold and taken off the books as a liability where they will increase
their cash on hand that said bank can then re-lend to someone else at a higher rate. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Brent Williams-Ruth</span></b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> (pronouns: he/him)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 8:17 AM Suzanne Lieberman <<a href="mailto:suzanne@cmslawfirm.com" target="_blank">suzanne@cmslawfirm.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If an unmarried surviving partner inherit's decedent's real estate and partner is the sole beneficiary under decedent's will, the lender can't call the note under the federal regulations,
correct (the partner can maintain the mortgage terms, if a regular mortgage)?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#500050">Legal stuff I have to put in... <i>To ensure compliance with Treasury Department and IRS regulations, we inform you that, unless expressly indicated
otherwise, any federal tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written by CMS Law Firm LLC to be used, and cannot be used by the taxpayer, for the purpose of: (i) avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the
taxpayer under the Internal Revenue Code; or (ii) promoting, marketing, or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein (or any attachments).</i></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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