<html><head></head><body><div class="ydp2f5acf0cyahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I feel your pain-it does not seem possible. I hope someone on this</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">listserv gives you advice, I'm baffled.</div><div><br></div>
</div><div id="yahoo_quoted_5890916912" class="yahoo_quoted">
<div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
<div>
On Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 11:01:20 AM PDT, Jennifer L White <jen@appletreelaw.com> wrote:
</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><div id="yiv7992425141">
<style><!--
#yiv7992425141
_filtered {}
_filtered {}
_filtered {}
_filtered {}
#yiv7992425141
#yiv7992425141 p.yiv7992425141MsoNormal, #yiv7992425141 li.yiv7992425141MsoNormal, #yiv7992425141 div.yiv7992425141MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}
#yiv7992425141 span.yiv7992425141EmailStyle17
{
font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;
color:windowtext;}
#yiv7992425141 p.yiv7992425141xmsonormal, #yiv7992425141 li.yiv7992425141xmsonormal, #yiv7992425141 div.yiv7992425141xmsonormal
{
margin-right:0in;
margin-left:0in;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}
#yiv7992425141 p.yiv7992425141xinsideaddress, #yiv7992425141 li.yiv7992425141xinsideaddress, #yiv7992425141 div.yiv7992425141xinsideaddress
{
margin-right:0in;
margin-left:0in;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}
#yiv7992425141 .yiv7992425141MsoChpDefault
{
font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}
_filtered {}
#yiv7992425141 div.yiv7992425141WordSection1
{}
--></style>
<div>
<div class="yiv7992425141WordSection1">
<p class="yiv7992425141MsoNormal">Good Morning Listserv:</p>
<p class="yiv7992425141MsoNormal">This is a follow up post with my ongoing saga with DSHS and this particular recovery claim.
</p>
<p class="yiv7992425141MsoNormal">Facts: Decedent receives hospital and pharmacy services in 1999 – Jan of 2003. Medicaid pays them. She was over age 55 (in her 70’s). She lives on until July 2021. Dies intestate. DSHS has never to this day filed a lien. We file probate
and send DSHS actual Notice to Creditors with decedent’s SS#. They timely file a creditor’s claim for about $50,000. All but a few thousand dollars of that amount is now 20+ years old. On January 21, 2022, I file a notice of rejection with the court and send
it per the statute, certified mail RRR. I have the green postal ticket with the DSHS mailroom stamp indicating they received it January 28, 2022. Last week I get the following email (redacted for privacy).
</p>
<p class="yiv7992425141MsoNormal"> </p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;" class="yiv7992425141xmsonormal"><span style="color:#0070C0;">Good evening, Ms. White:</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;orphans:2;widows:2;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv7992425141xmsonormal">
<span style="color:#0070C0;"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;orphans:2;widows:2;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv7992425141xmsonormal">
<span style="color:#0070C0;">I am writing in receipt of your Rejection received today. You stated “<i>The statute of limitations on this debt ran out years ago</i> (<i>RCW 43.20B.030).”</i> That RCW does not pertain to Estate Recovery, please review <b>RCW <u>43.20B.080</u></b> <i>Recovery
for paid medical assistance- estate recovery costs, terms, and conditions. </i> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;orphans:2;widows:2;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv7992425141xmsonormal">
<span style="color:#0070C0;"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;orphans:2;widows:2;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv7992425141xmsonormal">
<span style="color:#0070C0;">Since a Creditor’s Claim was filed and not a lien, please reference <b>RCW</b> <b><u>11.40.010</u></b> <i>claims against the estate</i>.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;orphans:2;widows:2;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv7992425141xmsonormal">
<span style="color:#0070C0;"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;orphans:2;widows:2;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv7992425141xmsonormal">
<span style="color:#0070C0;">The Department can file a <b>lien</b> up to two years from the date of death. <b>The SOL on a lien is 20 years.</b> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;orphans:2;widows:2;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv7992425141xmsonormal">
<span style="color:#0070C0;">The Department can file a <b>Creditor’s Claim</b> up to two years from the date of death. <b>The SOL for a Claim is six years.</b></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;orphans:2;widows:2;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv7992425141xmsonormal">
<span style="color:#0070C0;"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;orphans:2;widows:2;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv7992425141xmsonormal">
<span style="color:#0070C0;">Federal law requires the state to recover certain medical and long term care expenses from a person’s estate after they expire. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;orphans:2;widows:2;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv7992425141xinsideaddress">
<span style="color:#0070C0;">_______ received $50,267.20 in Medicaid Services which are recoverable under both <b>state (RCW 43.20B.080) (RCW 41.05A.090) and federal (<i>42 U.S.C. Sec. 1396p</i>) law.</b></span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:#0070C0;"></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;orphans:2;widows:2;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv7992425141xmsonormal">
<span style="color:#0070C0;"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;orphans:2;widows:2;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv7992425141xmsonormal">
<span style="color:#0070C0;">____ received Medicaid services dating back to 1999 – there is no SOL for medical provided. Some people are on Medicaid their whole life while others only for a few months. </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;orphans:2;widows:2;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv7992425141xmsonormal">
<span style="color:#0070C0;"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;orphans:2;widows:2;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv7992425141xmsonormal">
<span style="color:#0070C0;">I am preparing to send this file to our attorneys at the Attorney General’s Office since a rejection was filed. If you would like to review the information provided and decide to withdraw your rejection, I would need your rescission
within five business days.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;orphans:2;widows:2;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv7992425141xmsonormal">
<span style="color:#0070C0;"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;orphans:2;widows:2;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv7992425141xmsonormal">
<span style="color:#0070C0;">I hope this clears up any further questions you or ____, Co-PR’s, may have.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;orphans:2;widows:2;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv7992425141xmsonormal">
<span style="color:#212121;"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;orphans:2;widows:2;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv7992425141xmsonormal">
<span style="color:#212121;">I have never heard of any extension of the CC rejection statute for DSHS? They received notice of rejection and did not file a lawsuit within 30 days of January 21, 2022, so they should be out of luck on the creditor claim, right?
</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;" class="yiv7992425141xmsonormal"><span style="color:#212121;">What about them now trying to file a lien on debt that old? I looked at 43.20B.080. Is there no SOL in this instance? Does the 43.20B.030 SOL not apply here? I would refer
this out to a Medicaid/DSHS specialist, but these folks have no cash to pay fees, so there might as well only be one of us not getting paid….
</span><span style="font-family:UI sans-serif;color:#212121;">😊</span><span style="color:#212121;"> (yes, this is the same estate with the drug addled relative that is STILL camping out in the house; and with the new surprise great grandchildren
“right of representation” takers I queried a couple of weeks ago. Some estates just have problem, after problem, after problem….).
</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;" class="yiv7992425141xmsonormal"><span style="color:#212121;"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;" class="yiv7992425141xmsonormal"><span style="color:#212121;">Any wisdom would be much appreciated!
</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;" class="yiv7992425141xmsonormal"><span style="color:#212121;"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;background:white;" class="yiv7992425141xmsonormal"><span style="color:#212121;">Best,</span></p>
<p class="yiv7992425141MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="yiv7992425141MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:MT;">Jennifer L. White, Esq.</span>
<span style="font-family:MT;"></span></p>
<p class="yiv7992425141MsoNormal"><img width="105" height="105" style="width:1.0958in;min-height:1.0958in;" id="yiv7992425141Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:DtidZjyVzY1IHaOTaxqK" yahoo_partid="1.2"></p>
<p class="yiv7992425141MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="yiv7992425141MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:Rounded MT sans-serif;"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com"><span style="font-style:normal;">jen@appletreelaw.com</span></a></span></i></p>
<p class="yiv7992425141MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Rounded MT sans-serif;">PO Box 11037</span></p>
<p class="yiv7992425141MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Rounded MT sans-serif;">Yakima, WA 98909</span></p>
<p class="yiv7992425141MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Rounded MT sans-serif;">509.225.9813</span></p>
<p class="yiv7992425141MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
</div>
</div>***Disclaimer: Please note that RPPT listserv participation is not restricted to practicing attorneys and may include non-practicing attorneys, law students, professionals working in related fields, and others.***<br>_______________________________________________<br>WSBAPT mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:WSBAPT@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:WSBAPT@lists.wsbarppt.com">WSBAPT@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbapt" target="_blank">http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbapt</a></div>
</div>
</div></body></html>