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<p class="MsoNormal">Good Morning Listserv:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This is a follow up post with my ongoing saga with DSHS and this particular recovery claim.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Facts: Decedent receives hospital and pharmacy services in 1999 – Jan of 2003. Medicaid pays them. She was over age 55 (in her 70’s). She lives on until July 2021. Dies intestate. DSHS has never to this day filed a lien. We file probate
and send DSHS actual Notice to Creditors with decedent’s SS#. They timely file a creditor’s claim for about $50,000. All but a few thousand dollars of that amount is now 20+ years old. On January 21, 2022, I file a notice of rejection with the court and send
it per the statute, certified mail RRR. I have the green postal ticket with the DSHS mailroom stamp indicating they received it January 28, 2022. Last week I get the following email (redacted for privacy).
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<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin:0in;background:white"><span style="color:#0070C0">Good evening, Ms. White:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:#0070C0">I am writing in receipt of your Rejection received today. You stated “<i>The statute of limitations on this debt ran out years ago</i> (<i>RCW 43.20B.030).”</i> That RCW does not pertain to Estate Recovery, please review <b>RCW <u>43.20B.080</u></b> <i>Recovery
for paid medical assistance- estate recovery costs, terms, and conditions. </i> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:#0070C0">Since a Creditor’s Claim was filed and not a lien, please reference <b>RCW</b> <b><u>11.40.010</u></b> <i>claims against the estate</i>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:#0070C0">The Department can file a <b>lien</b> up to two years from the date of death. <b>The SOL on a lien is 20 years.</b> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:#0070C0">The Department can file a <b>Creditor’s Claim</b> up to two years from the date of death. <b>The SOL for a Claim is six years.</b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:#0070C0">Federal law requires the state to recover certain medical and long term care expenses from a person’s estate after they expire. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:#0070C0">_______ received $50,267.20 in Medicaid Services which are recoverable under both <b>state (RCW 43.20B.080) (RCW 41.05A.090) and federal (<i>42 U.S.C. Sec. 1396p</i>) law.</b></span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0070C0"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:#0070C0">____ received Medicaid services dating back to 1999 – there is no SOL for medical provided. Some people are on Medicaid their whole life while others only for a few months. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:#0070C0">I am preparing to send this file to our attorneys at the Attorney General’s Office since a rejection was filed. If you would like to review the information provided and decide to withdraw your rejection, I would need your rescission
within five business days.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:#0070C0">I hope this clears up any further questions you or ____, Co-PR’s, may have.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="color:#212121">I have never heard of any extension of the CC rejection statute for DSHS? They received notice of rejection and did not file a lawsuit within 30 days of January 21, 2022, so they should be out of luck on the creditor claim, right?
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<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin:0in;background:white"><span style="color:#212121">What about them now trying to file a lien on debt that old? I looked at 43.20B.080. Is there no SOL in this instance? Does the 43.20B.030 SOL not apply here? I would refer
this out to a Medicaid/DSHS specialist, but these folks have no cash to pay fees, so there might as well only be one of us not getting paid….
</span><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif;color:#212121">😊</span><span style="color:#212121"> (yes, this is the same estate with the drug addled relative that is STILL camping out in the house; and with the new surprise great grandchildren
“right of representation” takers I queried a couple of weeks ago. Some estates just have problem, after problem, after problem….).
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<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin:0in;background:white"><span style="color:#212121">Any wisdom would be much appreciated!
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<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin:0in;background:white"><span style="color:#212121">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Script MT Bold"">Jennifer L. White, Esq.</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com"><span style="font-style:normal">jen@appletreelaw.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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