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<p class="MsoNormal">Good point. So still no publication, but must give notice to DOR and DSHS. However, that can be a copy of the Notice of Appointment and Pendency of Probate, and not a Notice to Creditors. See
<span lang="EN-CA"><a href="https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28.237"><span lang="EN-US">RCW 11.28.237(2)</span></a></span> as to DSHS, and as Paul cited,
<a href="https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=82.32.240">RCW 82.32.240</a> for DOR.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">That said, you are still required to give notice to the WA DOR and WA DSHS via RCW 82.32.240 and RCW 11.40.020(1)(d). That notice can take the form of a Notice to Creditors
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<p class="MsoNormal">Agree. I would argue the PR has a duty to NOT publish a Notice to Creditors if at least 20 months after date of death have passed—that is, two years minus four months.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Per <a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapp.leg.wa.gov%2FRCW%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fcite%3D11.40.051&data=05%7C01%7C%7C1f7f4b2f95fe4a1b22c908da3e80540d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637891018147587911%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Rj80JHhms0DfM7r2r7vGelUCYRjVuNgYSRc9sJcHcSA%3D&reserved=0">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Per RCW 11.40.051(a) and (b), if a notice is published it opens a potential four-month window within which claims can be filed. Arguably that window could extend the two year deadline, which I think would be contrary to the PR’s duty to
beneficiaries. I would say that the PR’s duty to treat potential claimants fairly does not include giving them more than the statutory two years within which to file a claim.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The way I look at this is that if there are no creditors to your knowledge and the mail and other documents don't show any creditors, then no publication is necessary. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 11:21 AM <<a href="mailto:Jeff@bellanddavispllc.com">Jeff@bellanddavispllc.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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