<div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;">You could have daughter complete and file an affidavit setting out the circumstances of the transfer to dad when mom passed away. I've done that once or twice when, even though title knows that the transfer has occurred by virtue of community property law or some other means, the County wants something filed and the excise tax exemption claimed before they will remove the deceased person from the tax rolls. Not sure if that's the case here, but that is one way to get the information in the chain.</div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;">Your friendly local title officer should be able to give you some direction as to what they would like to see in order to insure title in the future.</div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;">Jen</div>
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<p>As John said before, dad's probate may have legally taken care of
the issue without a deed. Back in the old days, when title co
people would actually look at court files, and the concept of
transfers by the Court was more common, probates were closed and
property transferred by a Receipt or a Declaration of Completion
or an Inventory that showed that the beneficiary got the real
estate, no recorded deed required. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">If you
aren’t getting title insurance, you have to make the best
guess you can, based on your client’s interest in certainty
and clarity. You could petition to re-open dad’s estate with
daughter as Personal Representative, then execute a deed
confirming all of his interest to mom, then have mom’s
Personal Representative execute a deed from mom’s estate to
beneficiary. Or, you could simply have Personal
Representative of mom’s estate execute one deed, from estate
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beneficiary of dad (dec. xx/xx/1991). The problem is that
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Leighann Hansing<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 28, 2022 3:56 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you. My question is more how to we
make the community property information part of the chain of
title if there was no community property agreement and both
spouses are now deceased? Is it good enough to just record a
PR DEED signed by the PR of mom’s estate? It seems like
something would be missing. </p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>John McCrady<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 27, 2022 4:34 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Probate real property
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<p class="MsoNormal">It is entirely possible that no “transfer”
was necessary. If there was a will and wife was the
beneficiary, or if there was no will and the property was
community property, then it is possible that title will be
deemed held by the wife alone at the time of her death.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">A review of the husband’s probate file may
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<p class="MsoNormal">I feel like this is a relatively
straight-forward question but I’m stuck and hoping for help.
Thanks so much in advance for your time!</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Husband and wife own real property as a
married couple.
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Husband dies in 1991. The estate is
probated. Wife is the PR and presumably the sole beneficiary
of the estate. Wife never transfers the title to her name
alone.
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Wife dies in 2009. PR (daughter) of Wife’s
estate wants to transfer title by QCD to the appropriate
beneficiary (herself).
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Since Daughter wasn’t PR of Dad’s estate,
what is the correct method to effect a complete title
transfer?
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,</p>
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