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<div>With the real estate market in Spokane and suspected increase in rates, inflation, etc. I have one probate-valued by the same probate that saw a 150k increase in about 3 months. I have always, historically felt comfortable with a sale in a reasonable
time being used and disclosing that on the return - that was until the last two years.</div>
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<div>All that to say that I wouldn’t necessarily say you’re wrong-but in todays market conditions it may be different. Also for fast appreciating property it comes down to who may get more money-in a WA taxable estate the increased value based on sale price=
Higher estate tax, lower or no capital gain to beneficiary. If lower value, so capital gains results individual beneficiaries will likely report that on 1040-can be favorable particularly when multiple beneficiaries are sharing in the gain.</div>
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Q; You mentioned lapse of months. Previously, I had been told that if a real property was sold within nine ,months of death, the value at death was the sale price. With the rapid increase we were seeing , likely to now slow with increasing interest rates, a
sale within 6 months could be the value at death - is this not the case? Mike Atkins</div>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">Anytime I vary from the directions of the Will, I TEDRA. In this case, you indicated all beneficiaries are the same (common) but I still would memorialize it in a TEDRA. I would also suggest, the assets
that would have funded the credit shelter trust have one basis and the assets of the surviving spouse may very well have a different basis due to the lapse of months (particularly with real estate and investment accounts in this day and age) and I would want
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Shannon:</p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">My 2 cents. If it is clear that both estates combined would be under the exemption, then I have no concern with distributing directly to the heir from the estate. However, if the CST is needed to avoid any confusion about the 2<sup>nd</sup>
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