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<p class="MsoNormal">This is a really interesting topic, and I’ve had to counsel clients *<b>not</b>* to do this. I also used fraudulent transfer as one of my causes of action in a civil case several years ago. It succeeded. WA does not take such transfers
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just for the purpose of CYA; what is the best way to cover ourselves if our clients come to us with a plan such as Brent described? If it happens to me, I add to my case notes that I advised the client not to do this, and I believe I also
follow up with at least one email to the client with that recommendation. Is that enough, or should I do more to cover myself?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Brent</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I did appreciate that you didn’t suggest the action. I apologize for any suggestion otherwise. I offered it gratuitously because its one of those things that we see after
the fact and the lawyers who have been involved in the advice process don’t always document their advice NOT to take such action and end up getting caught up in the process.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I had a case several years ago in which the impact of the estate planning was to transfer assets to trusts for the benefit of adult children. When the transferor filed
bankruptcy several years later, the transfers, after some research, became apparent. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">To be clear - I did not recommend this strategy. This is what came to me for handling AFTER the fact. Adviser was one of a financial variety. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 4:24 PM Russell D. Garrett <<a href="mailto:Russell.Garrett@jordanramis.com">Russell.Garrett@jordanramis.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Philip, not bad for “lowly estate planner”!! Lawyers who counsel or assist their clients to make fraudulent
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Philip N. Jones<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 21, 2022 3:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Transfer right before death<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I am not a creditor’s rights attorney. But even a lowly estate planner like me thinks this looks like a fraudulent
transfer. See RCW 19.40, known as<span style="color:black"> the Uniform Fraudulent Transfer Act, also known as the Uniform Voidable Transactions Act. This is the state law that the IRS uses when someone (or some entity) transfers assets at a time when taxes
are due, thus creating insolvency and preventing the IRS from collecting their taxes. But any creditor can use this statute if the facts are right. The recipients of the assets are subject to something known as transferee liability. Best thing to do is
talk to a creditor’s rights attorney ASAP, and do not rely on my amateurish opinions.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brent Williams-Ruth<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 21, 2022 3:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Transfer right before death<o:p></o:p></p>
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Decedent sees the end coming. Transfers all assets to their sibling. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Decedent passes with $XXX in debt. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Is the estate insolvent where the creditors are “out of luck” or is this a transfer that can be undone. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Key in my mind is that there is literally not a single asset that will be conveyed after death. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b>Brent Williams-Ruth</b> <br>
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