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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Heather de Vrieze<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 10, 2022 10:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Requirement for Death Cert in Probate<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Yes, King County has required proof of death, in the form of an attorney affidavit or death certificate for several years now. I am not aware of any change to that requirement. I generally use the option of
 an affidavit I sign indicating what my evidence of death is (death certificate, conversation with ME or funeral home, etc.).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">I recently opened a King County probate and the Commissioner returned my papers indicating “he needed proof of death” even though Petition was verified by the mother of the decedent.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 10, 2022 10:08 AM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks, Dalynnne. Good info.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Westbrook<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 9, 2022 12:56 PM<br>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Greetings all, it is my understanding that we no longer have a state wide requirement to have a death certificate to open a probate proceeding. Can someone please</span>
<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">confirm this and point me in the right direction for authority.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Sincerely,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Tom</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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