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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Diane I rarely do “springing” powers of attorney any more especially after I point out to client that: 1) agent may be dealing with a crisis situation where time is of the essence and a trigger like having doctor write letter in support can be problematic as they often are hesitant to write letters, especially with HIPAA and the fact they may not be in a position to make that call of financial incapacity which can really slow things down (I have seen language saying an individual or panel can make that call, instead of doctor, but that presents its own problems) 2) if they have any doubts about their proposed agents, they shouldn’t be naming them at all (and instead rely on court oversight with a guardianship) as “springing powers” effectively means the principal would not be in a position to monitor the agents actions themselves and take appropriate action if they didn’t like what they saw and 3) clients would not giving up right to act for themselves/veto agent’s actions. But it’s obviously the client’s call. Thanks, Cy<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><i>Cyrus W. Field, Attorney at Law (admitted in Washington and Oregon); Phone: 360-472-1223 <o:p></o:p></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i>Mail: POB 367, Shaw Island, WA 98286; Physical Office: 640 Mullis St #214, Friday Harbor, WA</i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt'>****************************************************************<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt'>The information contained in this email message, including attachments, may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If you think you have received this email in error, please email the sender at <a href="mailto:cyfield@rockisland.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>cyfield@rockisland.com</span></a> and destroy or delete the original and any copies.</span> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kailei Feeney<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 8, 2022 3:40 PM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Query x 3<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Diane,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>To your second point, in my experience, more and more medical professionals are less willing to make what they deem to be a legal determination of capacity. At the start of the pandemic and increased practical difficulty in helping clients communicate with medical professionals (and get a signed piece of paper back out from that medical professional) to activate a standby power of attorney has led me to have the conversation with much younger and healthier clients about making the POA effective immediately. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Kailei<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Vladimir Script";color:#1F497D'>Kailei B. Feeney</span><b><span style='font-size:16.0pt;color:#1F497D'><br></span></b><i><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1F497D'>Attorney-at-Law<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=189 height=105 style='width:1.9652in;height:1.0972in' id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D81D9A.AF953530"></span></i><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Nyala;color:#44524E'>3909 California Avenue SW<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Nyala;color:#44524E'>Seattle, WA 98116-3705 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Nyala;color:#44524E'>(206)938-5500 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:kailei@westseattlelaw.com"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Nyala;color:blue'>kailei@westseattlelaw.com</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Nyala;color:#44524E'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.westseattlelaw.com/"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Nyala;color:#44524E'>www.westseattlelaw.com</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Nyala;color:#44524E'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Nyala;color:#C00000'>For the latest information regarding firm operations and precautions in light of the Coronavirus please visit our firm’s website:</span><span style='font-family:Nyala;color:red'> </span><a href="http://www.westseattlelaw.com/"><span style='font-family:Nyala;color:blue'>www.WestSeattleLaw.com</span></a><span style='font-family:Nyala;color:#C00000'>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002E8A'>Click here to connect with de Vrieze | Carney on Facebook: </span><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span></b><a href="https://www.facebook.com/DeVriezeCarney"><b><span style='color:blue;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=100 height=30 style='width:1.0416in;height:.3125in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image002.png@01D81D9A.AF953530" alt="FB Logo"></span></b></a><span style='font-family:Nyala;color:#C00000'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:gray'>CONFIDENTIAL & PRIVILEGED. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Nyala;color:gray'>This e-mail message may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this e-mail message and any attachment. Unless you have previously signed an engagement agreement with this firm, and the firm has accepted you as a client, NO exchange of information by virtue of emails or communications will create any attorney client relationship, including any duty of confidentiality, between sender and/or recipient.</span><span style='color:gray'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Diane J. Kiepe<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 8, 2022 3:02 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv' <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Query x 3<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>Boy the longer I practice, the more things hit me differently. I am curious today if you would share with me your practice approach (if any) on the following points:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>Drafting Wills and considering the possibility of heirs found via all these new heir find services.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>Your general approach for finding heirs in an intestacy estate – I generally just go based on the petition information as sworn to by my client – maybe that practice is outdated.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>In powers of attorney that are effective upon incapacity, what is your “go-to” language for determining incapacity and if you can share a story or two of seeing it in action effectively or maybe roadblocked (I have had one institution (before the most recent act) say they had to be specifically named to recognize a Power of Attorney).<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>Thanks all.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:"Script MT Bold"'>Diane J. Kiepe<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:"Script MT Bold"'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal>Diane J. Kiepe<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Douglas Eden<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>717 W. Sprague Ave.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Suite 1500<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Spokane, WA 99201<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:djkiepe@depdslaw.com">djkiepe@depdslaw.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>509-455-5300<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>