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<p class="MsoNormal">They cannot “just resign” and walk away. When they filed an Oath to qualify as PR, they submitted themselves to in personam jurisdiction of the court notwithstanding that probate jurisdiction is in rem. Because of the in personam jurisdiction,
they remain with potential personal liability.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Whether it is a “losing cause” is not their decision. It is the court’s decision.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dalynne is correct. Tell the court in a petition supported by evidence, have the court shut down the administration, and ask for a discharge of your client.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If your client blows off your advice and abandons the administration, draft a CYA letter. Your motivation for the CYA letter is based upon Trask v Butler.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>michael westseattleattorney.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 11, 2022 12:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Fees for a Resigning PR - are these a creditor claim?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Hi, no the PR has received two creditor claims (mortgage and a Judgement )which makes the estate ($600 k house plus $4k bank) insolvent. I advised them that they could inform
the court and ask for the bank account of $4000 to pay they out of pocket expenses and fees and also to sell the house and put the proceeds into an account to pay the expenses and any claims ; but they thought it was a losing cause and they want out and to
just resign. Can they without liability for not doing more and can they just file a claim for admin fees, expenses? Or, can they take the bank account for admin expenses? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">What do you think? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> on behalf of Dalynne Singleton <<a href="mailto:dalynne@glgmail.com">dalynne@glgmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 11, 2022 10:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Fees for a Resigning PR - are these a creditor claim?</span>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">No the creditor claims are for pre-death debts.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">You can make a motion and receive an order from the court on the expenses to be paid according to RCW 11.76.110? Of course, the argument that they are necessary and reasonable should be made.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Was there an insolvency hearing?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt">RCW <a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.76.110">11.76.110</a></span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Order of payment of debts.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:red">After payment of costs of administration
</span><span style="font-size:14.0pt">the debts of the estate shall be paid in the following order:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">(1) Funeral expenses in such amount as the court shall order.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">(2) Expenses of the last sickness, in such amount as the court shall order.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">(3) Wages due for labor performed within sixty days immediately preceding the death of decedent.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">(4) Debts having preference by the laws of the United States.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">(5) Taxes, or any debts or dues owing to the state.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">(6) Judgments rendered against the deceased in his or her lifetime which are liens upon real estate on which executions might have been issued at the time of his or her death, and debts secured by mortgages
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">(7) All other demands against the estate.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">
wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>michael westseattleattorney.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 11, 2022 9:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Fees for a Resigning PR - are these a creditor claim?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">As the Estate is now insolvent, the PR wants to resign. Since these are admin expenses and have priority, how does PR file claim ? Using creditor claim format, state that
they are admin expenses , fees, file and resign? Thanks, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Michael Atkins</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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