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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">You have to “prove” someone died because we have had cases where probates have been opened for the estate of person that are still alive. Causes great confusion at the funeral.
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Ordering Death Certificate - New Snag<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">What is the reason you have to prove someone has died? Look under the Instructions For Authorized representative Form as to Short Form Death Certificates as to who can order such a certificate.
That is the only "catch-all" condition under which a certified death certificate can be issued. Otherwise, you can purchase a non-certified informational death certificate copy or go to the Washington State Digital Archives.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Jahnis J. Abelite, WSBA #11644<br>
ABELITE LAW OFFICES P.S.</span><br>
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">16710 Smokey Point Blvd., Suite 200</span><br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 21, 2021 10:16<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Ordering Death Certificate - New Snag</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal">What if you don’t represent a next of kin but need a death certificate to prove that someone is dead. Does the law allow a subpoena to the health dept?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Rod Harmon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> Attorney at Law</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> P.O. Box 1066</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">
wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jahnis Abelite<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 21, 2021 9:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Yes, effective 01/01/2021, Washington is a closed record state. Attorneys can still obtain death certificates but must submit certain forms to show they have the authority to act on behalf of
the nex-of-kin. Check the web page of the County Health Department and you will see the documentary requirements for attorneys who are acting on behalf of their clients.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Jahnis J. Abelite, WSBA #11644<br>
ABELITE LAW OFFICES P.S.</span><br>
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">16710 Smokey Point Blvd., Suite 200</span><br>
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Arlington WA 98223-8435</span><br>
<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Office: 360-657-3886</span><br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 21, 2021 09:18<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Ordering Death Certificate - New Snag</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Today i was informed that I am not eligible to place an order for a death certificate for my client's parent. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">This is a first since the new law has come into play. Has anyone else been told that they cannot do this and that my client, herself, has to be the one who places the order?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Brent Williams-Ruth</span></b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> (pronouns: he/him)<br>
<i>Attorney-At-Law</i></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Law Offices of Brent Williams-Ruth, </span></b><b><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">a division of BWR Consulting, PLLC</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><b><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Physical Address: 500 S 336th Street, Suite 214; Federal Way, WA 98003</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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