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What is the reason you have to prove someone has died? Look under the Instructions For Authorized representative Form as to Short Form Death Certificates as to who can order such a certificate. That is the only "catch-all" condition under which a certified
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<font size="3" style="font-size:12pt">Jahnis J. Abelite, WSBA #11644<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 21, 2021 10:16<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Ordering Death Certificate - New Snag</font>
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<font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">What if you don’t represent a next of kin but need a death certificate to prove that someone is dead.  Does the law allow a subpoena to the health dept?</span></font></p>
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<font size="4" color="#1f497d" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:13.0pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">Rod Harmon</span></font></p>
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<b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Jahnis Abelite<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, December 21, 2021 9:59 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [WSBAPT] Ordering Death Certificate - New Snag</p>
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<font size="3" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Yes, effective 01/01/2021, Washington is a closed record state. Attorneys can still obtain death certificates but must submit certain forms to show they have the authority
 to act on behalf of the nex-of-kin. Check the web page of the County Health Department and you will see the documentary requirements for attorneys who are acting on behalf of their clients.</span></font></p>
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<font size="3" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Jahnis J. Abelite, WSBA #11644<br>
ABELITE LAW OFFICES P.S.</span></font><br>
<font size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">16710 Smokey Point Blvd., Suite 200</span></font><br>
<font size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Arlington WA 98223-8435</span></font><br>
<font size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Office: 360-657-3886</span></font><br>
<font size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Facsimile: 360-657-3719</span></font></p>
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<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> on behalf of Brent Williams-Ruth <<a href="mailto:brent@williams-ruthlaw.com">brent@williams-ruthlaw.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, December 21, 2021 09:18<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [WSBAPT] Ordering Death Certificate - New Snag</span></font>
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