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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>The question is the probability of a lien on real property. IF there is no or only a small probability then it matters not. Just wait for the IRS to come up with a problem if they get around to it, of which the probability is very low if they are already doubts as to what this is all about. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <b>On Behalf Of </b>Margaret Delp<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 7, 2021 9:50 AM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Insolvent decedent and IRS<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Does anyone see a downside to the daughter simply ignoring the IRS- not providing the will to them or anything else at this point? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Dec 7, 2021, at 7:51 AM, <a href="mailto:sdonahue@sdonahuelaw.com">sdonahue@sdonahuelaw.com</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Can she sign for her mother’s estate without opening a probate? I don’t think so. If she files a will only, there will be no probate and no one authorized to sign on behalf of her mother’s estate. I hesitate to say this but I don’t think she needs to or even should respond to the IRS at all. She has no authority to deal with the IRS as I see it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Other may disagree.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><b><span style='font-size:13.0pt'>SUSAN DONAHUE</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Law Office of Susan Donahue</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>125 West 2<sup>nd</sup> Avenue, Suite “B”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>P.O. Box 81</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Twisp, WA 98856</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>(509) 996-5944 (phone)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>(509) 362-9692 (fax)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><a href="mailto:sdonahue@sdonahuelaw.com"><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:blue'>sdonahue@sdonahuelaw.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Margaret Delp<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 6, 2021 4:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Insolvent decedent and IRS<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hello everyone:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Client was DPOA agent for her elderly mother. Elderly mother had no assets, literally not a single cent to her name. While mother was still living, the IRS asserted that she owed the IRS $29,000. Client advocated for her mother with the IRS and got confirmation on telephone that no money was owed, apparently there had been some error or identify theft or something of that nature. Elderly mother then passes away. Client sends IRS the death certificate. IRS responds that client needs to send the Will and then sign some forms. Client has no intention of filing a probate. She will file the Will in Superior Court as a “will only filing”. Does the client need to respond to the IRS at all? What forms would the IRS be asking her to sign? Any downside for client in doing nothing? We are looking for the least effort, no cost path.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<br>Margaret<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>--</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Law Office of Margaret Delp</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Mailing Address: PO Box 292, Langley, WA 98260</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Physical location: 2815 Howard Rd., Langley, WA, Second Floor</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Phone: 360-579-4530</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Fax: 360-512-3114</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.delp-law.com">www.delp-law.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>***Disclaimer: Please note that RPPT listserv participation is not restricted to practicing attorneys and may include non-practicing attorneys, law students, professionals working in related fields, and others.***<br>_______________________________________________<br>WSBAPT mailing list<br><a href="mailto:WSBAPT@lists.wsbarppt.com">WSBAPT@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbapt">http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbapt</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></body></html>