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<p class="MsoNormal">Everyone,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Here are the statutes/WAC cited on the creditor claim as authority for the claim: RCW 43.20B.080/41.05A.090 and WAC 182-527.
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<p class="MsoNormal">After receiving off-list advice and digging around some more, below is what I was remembering on SOL’s. In my case, DSHS has never to this day filed a lien, and we are long beyond 10 years. I am going to reject the claim and see what happens….<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black">RCW <a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=41.05A.040"><span style="color:#2B674D">41.05A.040</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black">Time limit for collection of overpayments or other debts</span></b><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">—</span></b><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black">Write-offs
of debts.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in;background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black">(1) Except as otherwise provided by law, including subsection (2) of this section, there may be no collection of overpayments
and other debts due the authority after the expiration of six years from the date of notice of such overpayment or other debt unless the authority has commenced recovery action in a court of law or unless an administrative remedy authorized by statute is in
place. However, any amount due in a case thus extended ceases to be a debt due the authority at the expiration of ten years from the date of the notice of the overpayment or other debt unless a court-ordered remedy would be in effect for a longer period.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in;background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black">(2) There may be no collection of debts due the authority after the expiration of twenty years from the date a lien
is recorded pursuant to RCW <a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=41.05A.090"><b><span style="color:#2B674D">41.05A.090</span></b></a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in;background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black">(3) The authority, at any time, may accept offers of compromise of disputed claims or may grant partial or total write-off
of any debt due the authority if it is no longer cost-effective to pursue. The authority shall adopt rules establishing the considerations to be made in the granting or denial of a partial or total write-off of debts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black">[ <a href="http://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2011-12/Pdf/Bills/Session%20Laws/House/1738-S2.SL.pdf?cite=2011%201st%20sp.s.%20c%2015%20%C2%A7%2091"><b><span style="color:#2B674D">2011
1st sp.s. c 15 § 91</span></b></a>.]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black">RCW <a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=43.20B.030"><span style="color:#2B674D">43.20B.030</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black">Overpayments and debts due the department</span></b><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">—</span></b><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black">Time
limit</span></b><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">—</span></b><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black">Write-offs and compromises</span></b><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">—</span></b><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black">Waivers.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in;background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black">(1) Except as otherwise provided by law, including subsection (2) of this section, there will be no collection of overpayments
and other debts due the department after the expiration of six years from the date of notice of such overpayment or other debt unless the department has commenced recovery action in a court of law or unless an administrative remedy authorized by statute is
in place. However, any amount due in a case thus extended shall cease to be a debt due the department at the expiration of ten years from the date of the notice of the overpayment or other debt unless a court-ordered remedy would be in effect for a longer
period.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in;background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black">(2) There will be no collection of debts due the department after the expiration of twenty years from the date a lien
is recorded pursuant to RCW <a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=43.20B.080"><b><span style="color:#2B674D">43.20B.080</span></b></a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in;background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black">(3) The department, at any time, may accept offers of compromise of disputed claims or may grant partial or total write-off
of any debt due the department if it is no longer cost-effective to pursue. The department shall adopt rules establishing the considerations to be made in the granting or denial of a partial or total write-off of debts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in;background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black">(4) Notwithstanding the requirements of RCW <a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=43.20B.630"><b><span style="color:#2B674D">43.20B.630</span></b></a>, <a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=43.20B.635"><b><span style="color:#2B674D">43.20B.635</span></b></a>, <a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=43.20B.640"><b><span style="color:#2B674D">43.20B.640</span></b></a>,
and <a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=43.20B.645"><b><span style="color:#2B674D">43.20B.645</span></b></a>, the department may waive all efforts to collect overpayments from a client when the department determines that the elements of equitable
estoppel as set forth in WAC 388-02-0495, as it existed on January 1, 2012, are met.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;color:black">[ <a href="http://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2011-12/Pdf/Bills/Session%20Laws/Senate/6508-S.SL.pdf?cite=2012%20c%20258%20%C2%A7%201"><b><span style="color:#2B674D">2012
c 258 § 1</span></b></a>; <a href="http://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2005-06/Pdf/Bills/Session%20Laws/House/2304-S.SL.pdf?cite=2005%20c%20292%20%C2%A7%205"><b><span style="color:#2B674D">2005 c 292 § 5</span></b></a>; <a href="http://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2003-04/Pdf/Bills/Session%20Laws/House/1561.SL.pdf?cite=2003%20c%20207%20%C2%A7%201"><b><span style="color:#2B674D">2003
c 207 § 1</span></b></a>; <a href="http://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/1997-98/Pdf/Bills/Session%20Laws/House/1426-S.SL.pdf?cite=1997%20c%20130%20%C2%A7%205"><b><span style="color:#2B674D">1997 c 130 § 5</span></b></a>; <a href="http://leg.wa.gov/CodeReviser/documents/sessionlaw/1989c78.pdf?cite=1989%20c%2078%20%C2%A7%204"><b><span style="color:#2B674D">1989
c 78 § 4</span></b></a>; <a href="http://leg.wa.gov/CodeReviser/documents/sessionlaw/1987c283.pdf?cite=1987%20c%20283%20%C2%A7%206"><b><span style="color:#2B674D">1987 c 283 § 6</span></b></a>; <a href="http://leg.wa.gov/CodeReviser/documents/sessionlaw/1979c141.pdf?cite=1979%20c%20141%20%C2%A7%20308"><b><span style="color:#2B674D">1979
c 141 § 308</span></b></a>; <a href="http://leg.wa.gov/CodeReviser/documents/sessionlaw/1965ex1c91.pdf?cite=1965%20ex.s.%20c%2091%20%C2%A7%202"><b><span style="color:#2B674D">1965 ex.s. c 91 § 2</span></b></a>. Formerly RCW <a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=74.04.306"><b><span style="color:#2B674D">74.04.306</span></b></a>.]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Script MT Bold"">Jennifer L. White, Esq.</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Diane J. Kiepe<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] DSHS Creditor Claim SOL?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">That’s what happened to me in one of my experiences. They even suggested maybe we would want to voluntarily pay. It was a solid no from the PR
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Script MT Bold"">Diane J. Kiepe<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Diane J. Kiepe<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chad Horner<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 23, 2021 11:44 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] DSHS Creditor Claim SOL?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jennifer, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I had a similar claim recently from DSHS for services provided many years ago. I reached out to the revenue agent to cite the basic 2-year SOL that I was sure she already knew. She promptly withdrew the claim and request for notice, saying
that she thought she’d at least give it a try. If there is another SOL, I’d be interested to know what that is.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] DSHS Creditor Claim SOL?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please reply to list! <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Sarah<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Nov 23, 2021, at 11:22 AM, Jennifer L White <<a href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com">jen@appletreelaw.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello learned colleagues: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I received a creditor claim from DSHS for $50,000 for decedent’s hospital/pharmacy bills dating back to 1999 – 2003. I reviewed the statutes/WACS cited on the claim.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I thought I remembered something earlier on this listserv about a 20 year SOL, but that is not mentioned anywhere in the recovery laws?
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<p class="MsoNormal">There is no doubt that the decedent did receive the services, so the legitimacy of the underlying debt is undisputable. It’s just been such a long time….does such a debt really live on forever? The estate is solvent even with the claim.
There is no surviving spouse or disabled or dependent children. Can anyone point me in the right direction as to any possible defenses or is it just time to pay up?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Script MT Bold"">Jennifer L. White, Esq.</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:jen@appletreelaw.com"><span style="font-style:normal">jen@appletreelaw.com</span></a></span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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