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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">Another quick off the cuff thought or two:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">Really nothing to probate because of the CPA.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">CPA still subject to decedent’s proper claims.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">You can always talk with a debtor but you could also follow the creditor claims statute once you determine the reach of the judgement. If no filing
timely there will be a bar. If there is a timely filing then you could begin negotiating. When negotiating decedent’s debts, don’t forget the family allowance (FA) (which now in King County is I believe over $700,000.00). I have used the FA as leverage
for creditor’s who took fifty cents on the dollar. I explained we had only so much money and that money could be paid mostly to lawyers in a Family Allowance hearing or they could agree to take less. It worked out well.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">I realize these thoughts are super substantive but maybe will get response on other experiences with the FA.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 18, 2021 1:02 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Judgement - insolvent estate<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#002060">Hi Mike—<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#002060">Partial answer, off the top of my head:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#002060">There are cases about liability of a spouse for the other’s debts. See
<i>Haley v. Highland</i>, 142 Wn.2d 135 (2000), which deals with this issue and cites earlier important cases. (There may be more recent salient cases). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Judgement - insolvent estate<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Married couple with Wills and CPA. H gets a Judgement against him. H dies and W does not probate will but has a CPA. W dies and heirs open probate and try to sell real property
only to find a Judgement against H. Judgement would make estate insolvent. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Two questions come to mind. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">1. Doesn't Judgement attach only to H's share? Does a probate need to be opened for H's estate? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">2. Can W 's PR simply request Judgement debtor reduce Judgement to H's share at time of H's death? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Thanks Mike <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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