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<p>Did the Judgment actually attach to the Husband's share of the
community residence, due to the homestead statute? And if not how
does it attach after he died? If more than 2 years since he died,
then any creditor claim would be barred.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/18/2021 1:24 PM,
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<p class="MsoNormal">One question, how old is the judgment?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jeff<o:p></o:p></p>
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P.O. Box 510<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"><wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com></a> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Diane J. Kiepe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 18, 2021 1:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com"><wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Judgement - insolvent estate<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">Another
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of the CPA.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt">CPA still subject to decedent’s
proper claims.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt">You can always talk with a debtor
but you could also follow the creditor claims statute once
you determine the reach of the judgement. If no filing
timely there will be a bar. If there is a timely filing
then you could begin negotiating. When negotiating
decedent’s debts, don’t forget the family allowance (FA)
(which now in King County is I believe over $700,000.00).
I have used the FA as leverage for creditor’s who took
fifty cents on the dollar. I explained we had only so
much money and that money could be paid mostly to lawyers
in a Family Allowance hearing or they could agree to take
less. It worked out well.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt">I realize these thoughts are
super substantive but maybe will get response on other
experiences with the FA.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Script
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;color:#002060">Hi Mike—<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Roman",serif;color:#002060">There are cases about
liability of a spouse for the other’s debts. See <i>Haley
v. Highland</i>, 142 Wn.2d 135 (2000), which deals with
this issue and cites earlier important cases. (There may be
more recent salient cases). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;color:black">Married couple with Wills
and CPA. H gets a Judgement against him. H dies and W
does not probate will but has a CPA. W dies and heirs open
probate and try to sell real property only to find a
Judgement against H. Judgement would make estate
insolvent. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;color:black">Two questions come to
mind. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;color:black">1. Doesn't Judgement attach
only to H's share? Does a probate need to be opened for
H's estate? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;color:black">2. Can W 's PR simply
request Judgement debtor reduce Judgement to H's share at
time of H's death? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New
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