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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Many thanks to all who respond to my post, on- and off-line. I will ask the court to accept the person’s time
<i>after</i> the date of death but <i>prior</i> to court appointment based on the argument that the actions were consistent with the person’s ultimate duties as a PR
<i>and</i> the person’s actions benefitted the estate. It’ll be up to the court to decide if that is “just and reasonable” under RCW 11.48.210.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Vohr<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 15, 2021 3:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Pre-Court Appointment PR Fees<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">A quick and easy way to categorize what is a creditor claim over what is an administration expense is that the creditor claim process is required to collect any debt of a decedent if the
decedent were alive at the time of the creation of the debt and would be responsible for paying the debt during lifetime.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">
wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Neumiller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 15, 2021 2:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Pre-Court Appointment PR Fees<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Listees. Happy Friday. After spending some time on FastCase, I have not found my answer and pursuing past listserv posts. So RCW 11.48.210 says a PR “shall be allowed such compensation for his or her services as the court shall deem
just and reasonable.”<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">So when does the “compensation” begin? My client travelled to town to see dying parent and then had to make funeral arrangements, etc. and make initial arrangements to clean decedent’s property up. All this was done
<i>prior</i> to client’s visit to me and client’s ultimate appointment as PR. Is any of this time compensated for? How about client’s time meeting with me but
<i>prior</i> to the date the judge signs the order and the clerk prepares the Letters?
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