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I believe your client’s services fall into the foggy realm of creditors of the estate.  </div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">John G. Llewellyn</div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com> on behalf of Heather de Vrieze <heatherd@westseattlelaw.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 15, 2021 2:47:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Pre-Court Appointment PR Fees</font>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">My gut reaction and normal advice to clients is that pre-death services are not included, but post death actions consistent with their duties as Personal Representative, whether or not appointed yet, would
 be, at least under normal circumstances.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Of course in all, the “just and reasonable” language is the most important, though subjective.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Heather</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt; font-family:"Vladimir Script"; color:#1F497D">Heather S. de Vrieze</span><b><span style="font-size:16.0pt; color:#1F497D"><br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Neumiller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 15, 2021 2:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Pre-Court Appointment PR Fees</p>
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<p class="x_MsoPlainText">Listees.  Happy Friday.  After spending some time on FastCase, I have not found my answer and pursuing past listserv posts.  So RCW 11.48.210 says a PR “shall be allowed such compensation for his or her services as the court shall
 deem just and reasonable.”</p>
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<p class="x_MsoPlainText">So when does the “compensation” begin?  My client travelled to town to see dying parent and then had to make funeral arrangements, etc. and make initial arrangements to clean decedent’s property up.  All this was done
<i>prior</i> to client’s visit to me and client’s ultimate appointment as PR.  Is any of this time compensated for?  How about client’s time meeting with me but
<i>prior</i> to the date the judge signs the order and the clerk prepares the Letters? 
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