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I’m not sure why this is grounds to remove or discipline a guardian? This does not sound like a guardianship issue at all to me. Perhaps your client could talk to the guardian about finding alternate placement. But a guardian is a surrogate decision maker,
not a life coach, and cannot force a ward to make lifestyle changes the ward in not willing to go along with. I would think long and hard before attempting to remove a guardian that is doing an overall good job for a Medicaid client. It is extremely difficult
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<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:black">Hi Sarah - yes professional guardian and I should have said PC's "child" is actually an adult now and with Down Syndrome in a group home setting. PC visits frequently and feels helpless to get any
responses to a variety of complaints from , TV not having any signal for months, someone stealing clothes and other personal belongings and now weight. I will pass on the info. Thanks Mike </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:18.0pt; font-family:"Garamond",serif">Until January 1, 2022, a motion or a "complaint" can be filed in the guardianship cause under </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif; color:black">RCW </span><span style="font-size:18.0pt; font-family:"Garamond",serif"><a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.88.120"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif; color:#2B674D">11.88.120</span></a> to
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<span style="font-size:18.0pt; font-family:"Garamond",serif">Though I would start by trying to deal with this informally, by talking to the guardian and finding out what the problems are, if that hasn't already been attempted. </span></p>
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<span style="font-size:18.0pt; font-family:"Garamond",serif">I don't really understand what the issue is, though. What does the child's weight have to do with the tasks the guardian is supposed to be performing on the child's behalf? A guardian doesn't usually
have such direct contact that the child's physical body size should have any relevance to anything.... Or, is the guardian also the child's live-in caregiver who assists with activities of daily living?... Is this a professional guardian, or a family member/lay
guardian? More likely to be a live-in caregiver if it's a family member. If so, the roles of caregiver vs guardian may need to be split out and clarified. Perhaps this person would be appropriate to stay on as a guardian, but not as caregiver assisting
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On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 12:36 PM Diane J. Kiepe <<a href="mailto:DJKiepe@depdslaw.com">DJKiepe@depdslaw.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<span style="font-size:16.0pt">Similarly, my first thought was for any concerned party to write to social services requesting a review of matters. However, I am curious how your friend has a guardian involved over his child. I feel like there are facts we
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<span style="font-size:16.0pt">A motion will likely need to be filed and then a GAL appointed for child. I would say there would have to be a showing that the guardian is not acting in the best interest of the ward. But in the interest of disclosure, I have
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<b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt; font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">My first thought is to get the child to a doctor to assist with this issue. Does the guardian control the child’s medical appointments?</span></p>
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<b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>michael <a href="http://westseattleattorney.com" target="_blank">
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 4, 2021 10:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserve <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Guardianship issue</p>
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<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:black">A friend says that his child, who has a guardian, is over weight and he can't get any help from guardian. Says child is about 5'3" and has a 55 inch waist - can't fit in 56 x 30 pants. I don't
venture into this area so I was unsure what he could do. I told him he could come in and hopefully I can give him some info and maybe a referral if he wants to go forward.</span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:black">Would anyone like to share if he has grounds to remove the guardian and what the standard is? Can he contact DSHS or the agency that controls the purse strings ? </span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:black">Or are there some resource I can access for this info? </span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; color:black">Thanks Mike </span></p>
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