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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Is that also true for bills that should have been covered by VA benefits before Affordable Care Act?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Lenard L Wittlake, PLLC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Attorney & Counselor at Law<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>22 East Poplar Street, Suite 202<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>P.O. Box 1233<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Walla Walla, WA 99362<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(509) 529-1529 voice<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(509) 850-3515 fax<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.lwattorney.com"><span style='color:blue'>www.lwattorney.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:Lenard@wittlakelaw.com"><span style='color:blue'>Lenard@wittlakelaw.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>The information contained in this email may be privileged, confidential or<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>otherwise protected from disclosure. If you received this email in error,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>please reply to the sender that you have received this information in error<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>and delete this email.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>J A Cyphers<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 1, 2021 10:03 AM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] DSHS creditor claim 2014-2021<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>One additional fact to explore. If this claim is for medical bills, after the Affordable Care act passed, the state could not claim back medical bills that should have been covered by the Act.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I no longer have the citation for those statutes but had DSHS some years ago claim for medical expenses and then drop the claim when I raised that issue.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>That could potentially reduce the claim.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 8:51 AM Dalynne Singleton <<a href="mailto:dalynne@glgmail.com">dalynne@glgmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>I received a creditor’s claim from DSHS in a probate for $201k showing charges from 2006 -2021 for a woman who had no income, no assets and qualified for Medicaid to pay her medical bills. Strange the creditor claim is not filed as a “lien”.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Can someone point me to authority to claim this creditor claim dating back 15 years – is there no enforced statute of limitations? There are no assets but for being a beneficiary of potential wrongful death monies from the death of her son before her. I’ve reviewed RCW 43.20B.080 and 41,05A.090 and WAC 182.527 and see no authority to get WD monies from an Estate – but I’ve had a commissioner in the past take these WD monies which are not “estate” probate assets and pay all kinds of Administrative and funeral expenses in an Estate (Pierce County case).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Once the amount of WD monies are known, if this is a valid creditor claim which would take 100% or more, I anticipate filing a Notice of Insolvency but want to know other options. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>The WD monies are not estate assets by statute (RCW 4.20). This estate was opened to receive wrongful death monies from the death of Ms. T.’s son. The WD suit was in the son’s Estate but the mother is one of the beneficiaries and her estate was opened. She is survived by 3 daughters who have claims to the WD monies outside of probate. Potentially, this creditor will get 100% of the WD monies if I don’t do something about it.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Anyone successfully argued DSHS gets -0- of the WD monies?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>I’d love to talk or exchange emails. 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