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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks; a good tip.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Roger Hawkes, WSBA # 5173
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Sultan</span></i> Office: 423 Main (physical office)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Box 351, Sultan, WA 98294 (incoming mail)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Sultan, WA 98294<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Other offices: we are scheduling in person meetings at various law offices in<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt">North King and South Snohomish counties. Virginia will be the person coordinating<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Where and When and with Whom a meeting will be held. Stay Safe!! Our phone, fax and email addresses are the same as they have been for twenty five years</span></b><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">😊</span></b><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Phone: 206 367 5000; fax: 206 367 4005<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>J A Cyphers<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 1, 2021 10:03 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] DSHS creditor claim 2014-2021<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One additional fact to explore. If this claim is for medical bills, after the Affordable Care act passed, the state could not claim back medical bills that should have been covered by the Act.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I no longer have the citation for those statutes but had DSHS some years ago claim for medical expenses and then drop the claim when I raised that issue.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That could potentially reduce the claim.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 8:51 AM Dalynne Singleton <<a href="mailto:dalynne@glgmail.com">dalynne@glgmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">I received a creditor’s claim from DSHS in a probate for $201k showing charges from 2006 -2021 for a woman who had no income, no assets and qualified
for Medicaid to pay her medical bills. Strange the creditor claim is not filed as a “lien”.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Can someone point me to authority to claim this creditor claim dating back 15 years – is there no enforced statute of limitations? There are no assets
but for being a beneficiary of potential wrongful death monies from the death of her son before her. I’ve reviewed RCW 43.20B.080 and 41,05A.090 and WAC 182.527 and see no authority to get WD monies from an Estate – but I’ve had a commissioner in the past
take these WD monies which are not “estate” probate assets and pay all kinds of Administrative and funeral expenses in an Estate (Pierce County case).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Once the amount of WD monies are known, if this is a valid creditor claim which would take 100% or more, I anticipate filing a Notice of Insolvency
but want to know other options. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">The WD monies are not estate assets by statute (RCW 4.20). This estate was opened to receive wrongful death monies from the death of Ms. T.’s son.
The WD suit was in the son’s Estate but the mother is one of the beneficiaries and her estate was opened. She is survived by 3 daughters who have claims to the WD monies outside of probate. Potentially, this creditor will get 100% of the WD monies if I don’t
do something about it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Anyone successfully argued DSHS gets -0- of the WD monies?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">I’d love to talk or exchange emails. Thanks.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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