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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">I have seen a TEDRA petition with resulting Order when the domestic partner was married but also in a CIR at the time of his death. The married couple had been separated for more than 30 years.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">In <i>
In re Meretricious Relationship of Long</i>, 158 Wn. App. 919, 244 P.3d 26 (2010), Division III considered whether a committed intimate relationship could be created between two parties when<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">one of those parties was married to a third party. “…[S]everal factors are considered in determining the existence of an equity relationship. No one factor is determinative. Thus,
[one party to the committed intimate<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">relationship] remaining married [to a third party] is a fact to consider, but it is not determinative.”
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kerry Richards<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 10, 2021 2:02 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Is a CIR Partner an Heir for Intestacy Purposes?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Dear Bryce:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">While I agree with your sentiments about defrauding the former spouse, (it is despicable to hide assets to the detriment of the other spouse) bear in mind that the person
who sought to keep private the acquisition of the property, did use his property or rather income in purchasing the property. He actually did pay money for the real estate. The community owns all of the deceased spouse’s income when and while she earned it.
Each member of the community has an undivided one half interest in the income. The CIR spouse used community income to purchase. The marital spouse may have a claim for some part of the acquisition at this point. Let all the transactions play themselves out
and justice (equity) will be realized. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Yours truly,<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Kerry A. Richards, Attorney<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bryce Dille<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 10, 2021 1:25 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Is a CIR Partner an Heir for Intestacy Purposes?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thank you however if one wants to have property separate to avoid another spouse getting wind of it that person must live with that decision and can’t claim interest in it when it is advantageous
to do so especially when that person has not paid nothing in obtaining it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Bryce H. Dille<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kerry Richards<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 10, 2021 12:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Is a CIR Partner an Heir for Intestacy Purposes?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Dear Bryce:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">No one fact should dominate in this analysis. I do think there is a case on that point. This is a matter that screams for consideration of all the facts and factors.
Other issues to take into consideration are the issues of fraud (the effect of not having clean hands on the argument), where perhaps the spouse (assuming he is still married) would be in line to take a share of whatever the CIR partner obtained, and the Deadman’s
Statute. Who is going to testify about what the decedent did or did not say in obtaining a mortgage? Not wanting to show up on title is not going to win the day, in my estimation. There are many circumstances where a bankrupt spouse declines to participate
in the mortgage process as it will just end up in a denial of the mortgage by the lender. This does not mean the house or the underlying mortgage obligation are not community, however. Should the fraud result in the surviving CIR partner receiving nothing?
Even if the survivor’s spouse does not enter into the contest? Perhaps. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">These are my quite random thoughts Bryce. I hope they assist in your analysis.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Yours truly,<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Kerry A. Richards, Attorney<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">11300 Roosevelt Way NE, Suite 300, Seattle, WA 98125<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bryce Dille<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 10, 2021 12:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Is a CIR Partner an Heir for Intestacy Purposes?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">In my case when asked the man stated he didn’t want title in his name as he was married to another woman and he didn’t want her to find out he had any assets and that’s why title was always taken
in her name and her credit relied on because man did not want to show up on title I believe this makes it her separate property even under CIR holdings. Your thoughts<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Bryce H. Dille<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kerry Richards<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 10, 2021 11:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Is a CIR Partner an Heir for Intestacy Purposes?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">List Mates:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Remember, when the CIR exists, there is no separate income from labor. Do not limit your analysis to the name on the title. Harry Cross (dating myself) long wrote about
the basic <b>Yesler</b> <b>presumption</b> and the idea that all earnings and acquisitions during marriage (and now a CIR) are community in character. There is no separate credit when it is based upon that community labor. The acquisition of a house during
the CIR would be a community acquisition unless there are documented separate sources for the down payment and purchase. In the facts described it sounds like this was just a common house purchase with a down payment (perhaps saved from earnings during the
CIR), with a community checking account to which the community earnings were long deposited and then a mortgage, where community credit was extended to one of the persons in the CIR. That mortgage would be a community obligation as well, even though it was
just in one person’s name. The name on the title, the name on the promissory note are not as relevant as other issues in forming the CIR and in establishing the community character of the acquisitions. Remember, there was a time when one of the spouses usually
did not work outside the home and instead raised the family. There was never any income actually earned by the homemaker spouse. Community property laws were there to engender equity to the circumstances of joint community ownership.
<b>Marriage of Lindsey</b> long ago overruled the <b>Creasman v. Boyle</b>. Those same principles are now applied to a CIR, as defined by the cases of
<b>Pennington</b> <b>v. Pennington</b> and <b>Chesterfield v. Nash</b>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Kerry A. Richards, Attorney<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Diane J. Kiepe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 10, 2021 11:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Is a CIR Partner an Heir for Intestacy Purposes?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">Wow,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">Seems like she took steps to keep things “separate” but without that plan in place it’s a crap shoot!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Script MT Bold"">Diane J. Kiepe<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Diane J. Kiepe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Is a CIR Partner an Heir for Intestacy Purposes?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thirty years makes it seem pretty much like CIR. The length of relationship is important in finding a CIR.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Roger Hawkes, WSBA # 5173
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Email: <a href="mailto:roger@law-hawks.com">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Web site: <a href="http://www.hawkeslawfirm.com/">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bryce Dille<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 10, 2021 10:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Is a CIR Partner an Heir for Intestacy Purposes?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I am litigating a matter now in which the individuals lived together for some 30+ years the deceased woman during that time Always had a decent job and title to our real estate was taken into her name and her
credit was solely used to obtain any funds used to purchase or improve the real estate. The man never had any type of full-time employment but only odd jobs from time to time, never filed any tax returns never had a checking account and that the only money
he earned was used to pay household expenses. It was a checking account but it was all in the name of the deceased woman in which she deposited her check unemployment and he never deposited any funds in that account. She did not have a will but did have two
children and the man is now claiming at least a 50% interest in the propertyAfter we instituted an action to have him evictedFrom the resident that is in her name that they both were residing in at the time of her death. The trial court on a motion for summary
judgment indicated that it would look at this similar to an accounting in a tenancy in common dispute As opposed to looking at it in a divorce setting some courts have indicated they would do because of a committed intimate relationship between the parties.<span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Bryce H. Dille <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dille Law, PLLC<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Aug 9, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Eric Nelsen <<a href="mailto:Eric@sayrelawoffices.com">Eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">CIR partner is definitely <b>
<u>not</u></b> an heir under intestacy. However, the division of CIR community-like property is not automatically 50-50: instead, the probate court must make a “fair and equitable” division of community-like property between the decedent and the surviving non-marital
partner. However that split ends up, 50-50 or otherwise, you are correct that the decedent’s share goes by intestacy and the surviving non-marital partner retains their share free of the estate.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The cases are not clear on what division actually looks like. They imply that the division would be made applying the same factors as in divorce, but that really does not work. One of the main concerns in
a divorce outcome is the resulting financial situation for each ex-spouse going forward, and obviously that does not apply for someone who is deceased. I have entertained the idea that, in a proper case, the "just and equitable" division of assets between
the survivor and the decedent could be 100% to the survivor and 0% to the estate. That is not strictly speaking an "inheritance" but it would achieve an outcome similar to inheritance of community property. If it works.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Sincerely,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Eric</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Eric C. Nelsen</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Sayre Law Offices, PLLC</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">1417 31st Ave South</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Natalie Kuehler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 9, 2021 3:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Is a CIR Partner an Heir for Intestacy Purposes?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Chaparral Pro"">Hello all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Chaparral Pro""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Chaparral Pro"">If one partner in a committed intimate relationship dies without leaving a will, does the surviving partner stand in the shoes of a spouse for purposes of intestacy law and inherit all of the decadent’s
estate? Or does the surviving partner only retain his or her one-half interest in property that is CIR/community-like property, but the deceased’s one-half interest in the property (i.e. the deceased’s estate) passes to surviving children, parents etc under
intestacy laws?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Chaparral Pro""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Chaparral Pro"">I believe the answer is the later but am getting pushback.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Chaparral Pro""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Chaparral Pro"">Thank you!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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