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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">One quick thought to add to avoid a possible trap. If you represent the PR, who is also the CIR Partner, that person should have separate legal counsel for those claims. While I have heard some folks say
that person shouldn’t serve as PR and just file claims as CIR Partner, I have seen it done both ways. What you don’t want is to be acting as counsel for the estate and making legal conclusions regarding the status of a CIR and allowing the PR to pay out accordingly.
I may be stating the obvious but since I learn something new everyday, I am not sure there is the obvious in my world anymore
</span><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">😉</span><span style="font-size:16.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">Best of luck.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Script MT Bold"">Diane J. Kiepe<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Diane J. Kiepe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Diane J. Kiepe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 10, 2021 8:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Is a CIR Partner an Heir for Intestacy Purposes?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">Great input Dalynne,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">I too have seen many of families come to an agreement versus fighting it out. TEDRA is very handy in these types of cases.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Script MT Bold"">Diane J. Kiepe<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Diane J. Kiepe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Douglas Eden<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">717 W. Sprague Ave.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Suite 1500<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Spokane, WA 99201<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="mailto:djkiepe@depdslaw.com">djkiepe@depdslaw.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">509-455-5300<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dalynne Singleton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 10, 2021 8:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Is a CIR Partner an Heir for Intestacy Purposes?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">There are several cases to look at when you are researching the CIR and domestic partnerships.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">In addition, I found an article instructive and will share with you directly to your email. Natalie, please send me an email so I can respond to you directly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">These are very fact specific cases and the length of the relationship is clearly a factor. I’ve had a few of these in past couple of years and usually the family or potential heir of the decedent will agree
to a TEDRA agreement once you show that the “partners” paid the mortgage and expenses of the home jointly or an intent to share all the assets through friends or family who talked to the decedent before death. But remember, they then share debts related to
assets. If the partner is going to get 100% of a home and there are debts to be paid, the agreement usually incorporates paying those debts from the 50% partner equity in the home.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Sloans v. Berry, 189 Wn. App. 368 (2015)</span></b><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#7030A0;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">
<b><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Estate of Borghi 141 Wn. App. 294 (2007)</span></b><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#7030A0;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">
<b><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Connell v. Francisco 127 Wn. 2d 339 (1995)</span></b><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#7030A0;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">
<b><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Matter of Estate of Langeland v. Drown, 195 Wash.App. 74 (2016)</span></b><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="color:#7030A0;margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">
<b><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Olver v. Fowler, 161 Wash.2d 655 (2007)</span></b><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Do not approach as an end all with the intestacy statute. If there is no Will, these are workable cases and worth making arguments. You might come to an agreement as I have for the partner or file a TEDRA
and set for hearing and let the court rule on the issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Natalie Kuehler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 9, 2021 3:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Is a CIR Partner an Heir for Intestacy Purposes?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Chaparral Pro"">Hello all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Chaparral Pro"">If one partner in a committed intimate relationship dies without leaving a will, does the surviving partner stand in the shoes of a spouse for purposes of intestacy law and inherit all of the decadent’s
estate? Or does the surviving partner only retain his or her one-half interest in property that is CIR/community-like property, but the deceased’s one-half interest in the property (i.e. the deceased’s estate) passes to surviving children, parents etc under
intestacy laws?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Chaparral Pro"">I believe the answer is the later but am getting pushback.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Chaparral Pro""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Chaparral Pro"">Thank you!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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