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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">Seems like she took steps to keep things “separate” but without that plan in place it’s a crap shoot!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Diane J. Kiepe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Roger Hawkes<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 10, 2021 10:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Is a CIR Partner an Heir for Intestacy Purposes?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thirty years makes it seem pretty much like CIR. The length of relationship is important in finding a CIR.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Roger Hawkes, WSBA # 5173
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Sultan</span></i><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> Office: 423 Main (physical office)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> Box 351, Sultan, WA 98294 (incoming mail)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Phone: 206 367 5000; fax: 206 367 4005<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Email: <a href="mailto:roger@law-hawks.com">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Web site: <a href="http://www.hawkeslawfirm.com/">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bryce Dille<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 10, 2021 10:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Is a CIR Partner an Heir for Intestacy Purposes?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I am litigating a matter now in which the individuals lived together for some 30+ years the deceased woman during that time Always had a decent job and title to our real estate was taken into her name and her
credit was solely used to obtain any funds used to purchase or improve the real estate. The man never had any type of full-time employment but only odd jobs from time to time, never filed any tax returns never had a checking account and that the only money
he earned was used to pay household expenses. It was a checking account but it was all in the name of the deceased woman in which she deposited her check unemployment and he never deposited any funds in that account. She did not have a will but did have two
children and the man is now claiming at least a 50% interest in the propertyAfter we instituted an action to have him evictedFrom the resident that is in her name that they both were residing in at the time of her death. The trial court on a motion for summary
judgment indicated that it would look at this similar to an accounting in a tenancy in common dispute As opposed to looking at it in a divorce setting some courts have indicated they would do because of a committed intimate relationship between the parties.<span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Bryce H. Dille <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dille Law, PLLC<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Aug 9, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Eric Nelsen <<a href="mailto:Eric@sayrelawoffices.com">Eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">CIR partner is definitely <b>
<u>not</u></b> an heir under intestacy. However, the division of CIR community-like property is not automatically 50-50: instead, the probate court must make a “fair and equitable” division of community-like property between the decedent and the surviving non-marital
partner. However that split ends up, 50-50 or otherwise, you are correct that the decedent’s share goes by intestacy and the surviving non-marital partner retains their share free of the estate.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The cases are not clear on what division actually looks like. They imply that the division would be made applying the same factors as in divorce, but that really does not work. One of the main concerns in
a divorce outcome is the resulting financial situation for each ex-spouse going forward, and obviously that does not apply for someone who is deceased. I have entertained the idea that, in a proper case, the "just and equitable" division of assets between
the survivor and the decedent could be 100% to the survivor and 0% to the estate. That is not strictly speaking an "inheritance" but it would achieve an outcome similar to inheritance of community property. If it works.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Sincerely,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Eric</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Eric C. Nelsen</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Sayre Law Offices, PLLC</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">1417 31st Ave South</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">
<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Natalie Kuehler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 9, 2021 3:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Is a CIR Partner an Heir for Intestacy Purposes?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Chaparral Pro"">Hello all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Chaparral Pro""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Chaparral Pro"">If one partner in a committed intimate relationship dies without leaving a will, does the surviving partner stand in the shoes of a spouse for purposes of intestacy law and inherit all of the decadent’s
estate? Or does the surviving partner only retain his or her one-half interest in property that is CIR/community-like property, but the deceased’s one-half interest in the property (i.e. the deceased’s estate) passes to surviving children, parents etc under
intestacy laws?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Chaparral Pro"">I believe the answer is the later but am getting pushback.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Chaparral Pro""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Chaparral Pro"">Thank you!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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