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<p>Also see RCW 11.86 regarding disclaimers of interests. Under
11.86.011(6)(n) the statute specifically contemplates disclaimers
of interests under community property agreements. <br>
</p>
<p>Thus, I don't see any problem with executing a will and community
property agreement concurrently and then choosing which to use at
the time of the death of the first spouse. When the first spouse
passes the survivor can simply choose whether to (1) use the CPA
to dispose of property or (2) disclaim interest under the CPA and
probate the will instead.</p>
<p>However, it would probably be best practice to include in the CPA
a provision contemplating disclaimer and/or to have a the survivor
sign a disclaimer of interest at the time of such disclaimer (in
Norris v. Norris disclaimer was implied by the fact that the
survivor discussed whether to use the will or the CPA and
ultimately decided to probate the will).<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/14/2021 9:10 AM, Heather de Vrieze
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">FWIW –
Briefing on this issue from early in my practice (in other
words, a really long time ago). I haven’t researched it
recently, but am unaware of any substantive changes to case
law.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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A community property agreement is a contract authorized and
controlled by R.C.W. §26.16.120, and remains in effect until
rescinded by a valid agreement of the parties.
<u>See</u> <u>In Re Estate of Catto</u>, 88 Wn App. 522, 944
P.2d 1052 (1997); <u>
In re Estate of Lyman</u>, 7 Wn. App 945, 503 P.2d 1127
(1972). In <u>Catto</u>, the wife executed a inconsistent
will and filed for divorce, but because the community property
agreement did not include a clause terminating it on divorce.
The beneficiaries of Mrs. Catto’s will contended that the
community property agreement should be nullified because the
marriage was defunct at the time of her death. The court
specifically found that the marriage was defunct, but held
that because the agreement had no clause indicating
termination in the event of a defunct marriage, it would not
imply such a provision.
<u>Catto</u>, <u>supra</u>, 88 Wn App at 529, 944 P.2d at
1056. Similarly, the status of the marriage between Mr. and
Mrs. Stamper should have no bearing on the validity of the
community property agreement.<span
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The courts have long since determined that a “meeting of the
minds”, or at least knowledge of and acquiescence to or
reliance on the repudiation by one party is necessary to
revoke or rescind a contract such as a community property
agreement. “Uncommunicated subjective mutual intention to
abandon is not enough.” <u>In re Estate of Lyman</u>, 7
Wash. App. at 949, 503 P.3d at 1131 (<u>quoting</u>
<u>Restatement of Contracts</u> §§20,21&22(1934)). One
party’s unilateral act cannot by itself serve to rescind the
agreement.
<u>See</u>, <u>In re Estate of Lyman</u>, <u>supra</u>; <u>In
re Estate of Catto</u>,
<u>supra</u>; <u>In re Estate of Wittman</u>, 58 Wn.2d 841,
365 P.2d 17 (1961). Further, to constitute intention to
abandon, both foresight of the consequences to follow and a
desire to do the thing foreseen is required.
<u>Lyman</u>, <u>supra</u>. If there was no mutuality of
intent, the agreement is still valid because there is no valid
recission<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:23.8pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly"><b>3.3</b>.
Often spouses will execute wills contemporaneously with
executing a community property agreement. This is to cover
any property excluded from the agreement, or the eventuality
of simultaneous deaths. In this case, no property was
excluded from the terms of the community property agreement.
If there were any assets not covered by the community property
agreement, Olivia’s will could have dispositive control over
those assets, but as no such assets exist, Olivia’s will
should not have any force or effect. <u>See</u>, <u>Lyman</u>,
<u>supra</u>. In fact, the events in the case at hand are
similar to those of
<u>Wittman</u>, in which the wife made a will purporting to
dispose of only her one-half interest in their community
property subject to a community property agreement. The
husband made a will giving certain legacies to certain
individuals and devising and bequeathing the residue to his
wife. In fact Olivia Stamper’s will went one step further and
specifically attempted to divest her husband of his one-half
of the community assets. Such attempt should fail, as it did
in
<u>Wittman</u> where the court confirmed ownership of all
assets on the surviving spouse.
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A community property agreement such as the one at issue in
this case is clear on its face and terms that it shall have
the effect of vesting all property owned by the couple, or by
the first spouse to die in the survivor.
<u>In re Estate of Wittman</u>, <u>supra</u>. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="text-align:justify;text-indent:.5in;line-height:23.8pt;mso-line-height-rule:exactly">There
is no case law regarding waiver of contractual rights under a
community property agreement. The similar but distinct
principle of election has been examined by the courts. The
only case where a spouse was estopped from having the probate
court enforce a community property agreement instead of the
will of the predeceased spouse was
<u>Norris v. Norris 95 Wash.2d 124, 622 P.2d 816 (1980)</u>.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">ALSO FWIW –
I use CPAs in my practice all the time and include a
provision for unilateral revocation in the event of
incapacity of one spouse and need for Medicaid.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 14, 2021 7:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Will/CPA<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">See Norris v. Norris, 25 Wn.App. 290
(1980). On W’s death, H opted to probate wife’s will even
though there was a CPA in effect, and court held he had
disclaimed his interest under the CPA. Some agreements
provide that a surviving spouse can disclaim their interest
at death of first spouse, so the terms of the agreement should
be considered. But Diane is right - there are numerous cases
where a CPA trumps terms of a will and other nonprobate
transfers - see Lyon v. Lyon, 100 Wn.App. 409, where a CPA
controlled over a joint tenancy with the deceased H’s brother
(“<span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;background:#EEEEFE"> Which
“instantaneous” event takes place first might muddle
metaphysicians for millenia. There is a need to resolve the
issue, however, and we hold that when the </span><span
class="cosearchterm"><b><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">agreement</span></b></span><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;background:#EEEEFE"> simply
conveys all </span><span class="cosearchterm"><b><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">community</span></b></span><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;background:#EEEEFE"> </span><span
class="cosearchterm"><b><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">property</span></b></span><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;background:#EEEEFE"> to
the surviving spouse, the </span><span class="cosearchterm"><b><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">agreement</span></b></span><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;background:#EEEEFE"> controls.
It is the policy of law to favor </span><span
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style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;background:#EEEEFE"> and
disfavor joint tenancies. ”)</span><br>
<br>
Karen<o:p></o:p></p>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Jul 14,
2021, at 7:22 AM, Diane J. Kiepe <<a
href="mailto:DJKiepe@depdslaw.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">DJKiepe@depdslaw.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
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<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">Sarah,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">I agree
with the contract conclusion and that it isn’t a take it
or leave it tool. That was said much better than my
post stating that the CPA trumps the Will. Trump may
have been a bad word. Because it’s a contract that
takes effect on a death of one person there is nothing
in the probate estate unless it is a CPA that only goes
to character of property (not how it vests). I rarely
see these.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">I have
been using CPAs for certain plans (all goes to first
spouse on death) and where Medicaid qualification is
unlikely (due to pension/ss or whatever) or where the
parties acknowledge they want to use all their funds as
they have for their best care and Medicaid only if
absolutely necessary. With that being said, the some
comments here certainly have given me food for thought.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"Script MT Bold"">Diane
J. Kiepe</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"Script MT Bold""> </span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Diane J. Kiepe<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Douglas Eden<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">717 W. Sprague Ave.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Suite 1500<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Spokane, WA 99201<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:djkiepe@depdslaw.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">djkiepe@depdslaw.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">509-455-5300<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a
href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">
wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a
href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sarah McCarthy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 13, 2021 7:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a
href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Will/CPA<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Here are 2 cents from a less seasoned
player in this field than most of you: <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">A CPA is a contractual commitment as
to how assets will vest after the first spouse’s death.
I don’t view it as something a surviving spouse can
simply discard if it winds up not being the best method
of handling things after the first spouse’s death. For
this reason it’s a tool that I don’t employ unless it’s
clear that absolute vesting to surviving spouse on death
is the only desired outcome. I do see it as trumping the
will. <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Though I am aware that some
attorneys prepare these as an optional tool, and
advise surviving spouses to choose whether or not to
take under a CPA, depending on the circumstances after
the first spouse’s death. I personally don’t agree
with this approach. Either the spouses make a
contractual commitment, or they don’t. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">The CPA can however be drafted to
permit revocation by a single spouse after one
spouse’s incapacity (as may be needed for Medicaid or
tax planning purposes), as well as an option for
disclaimer by surviving spouse, which affords
additional flexibility. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sarah<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sent by dictation from my
iPhone. Please excuse typos and missing
punctuation!<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On
Jul 13, 2021, at 4:15 PM, Roger Hawkes <<a
href="mailto:Roger@law-hawks.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">Roger@law-hawks.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">One
of the main reasons not to do a cpa is the
inability to do any sort of complex
planning, like trusts etc.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a
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moz-do-not-send="true">
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href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" moz-do-not-send="true">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Diane J. Kiepe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 13, 2021 3:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv
<<a
href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Will/CPA<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt">Ken,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt">If the SNT in the
Will is for the surviving spouse, the CPA will
be problematic. The CPA, if not revoked in
any way, will trump the Will. I sense I may
either be reading your note below wrong or
missing a fact.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:16.0pt">Happy to send you a
direct e-mail with some additional
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"Script MT
Bold"">Diane J. Kiepe</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-family:"Script MT
Bold""> </span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Diane J. Kiepe<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Douglas Eden<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">717 W. Sprague Ave.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Suite 1500<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Spokane, WA 99201<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="mailto:djkiepe@depdslaw.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">djkiepe@depdslaw.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">509-455-5300<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:16.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a
href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">
wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a
href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" moz-do-not-send="true">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ken Luce<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 13, 2021 3:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv
<<a
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Will/CPA<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Concern is with CPA it
eliminates provisions in their will for SNT<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">kl <o:p></o:p></p>
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href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" moz-do-not-send="true">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ken,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I would use what is most
beneficial for the situation. Is there a
surviving spouse? If so, wouldn’t the cpa be
easier and avoid probate? What is the issue
probating the Will(s).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Jeff<o:p></o:p></p>
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