<div dir="ltr">In my particular case of last year, the sibling/beneficiary (#1) who swore there was a Will in the safety deposit box also swore that the decedent/father had disinherited the other two siblings/beneficiaries and had named him (#1) as the PR.<div><br></div><div>This sibling/beneficiary would not sign a PR waiver until I could show him pictures of the empty deposit box. There were also some substance abuse issues with respect to #1.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Laurel</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 2:11 PM Roger Hawkes <<a href="mailto:Roger@law-hawks.com">Roger@law-hawks.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you don’t have the original or a copy with proof that the original was not destroyed, why not start an intestate probate, have the admin go to the box and report back to everyone what was in there; if will is found, then change to testate
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes. The probate I used this process on last year was just such a case. One of the three beneficiaries (siglings) swore that the decedent (father) had had a will executed and that it was in the safety deposit box. I petitioned the Court
for an Order to access the box on the belief of this beneficiary. Turned out that when I took the order to the bank, we opened the box and it was completely empty.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I then petitioned the Court to open an intestacy probate and appoint as PR the beneficiary that was willing to take this role on (with waivers from the other two siblings). Process went very smoothly.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 12:29 PM Kaitlyn Jackson <<a href="mailto:kaitlyn@dimensionlaw.com" target="_blank">kaitlyn@dimensionlaw.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Can this process be used to open the safety deposit box regardless of whether or not we know the will is in there? <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree with Nicholas. I used this process last year with a probate where the Will was supposed to have been in the decedent's safety deposit box.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It has been a few years since I have done this, but my recollection is that you do not file a normal probate petition but file only a Petition for Order to Open Safety Box. See
templates at <a href="https://www.wa-probate.com/instructions/opening/access-safety-box/" target="_blank">
https://www.wa-probate.com/instructions/opening/access-safety-box/</a> You’ll pay the $240 filing fee and get a probate cause number. You will then file a petition to appoint PR/admit will once you have the original will or decide to proceed a different way.<u></u><u></u></p>
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