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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Down here in Oregon, members of an LLC do not need to be identified in the state records. I assume that is true in Washington?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Phil, I agree- can’t unwind any way around this issue without the PCs naming a third party as trustee.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Mark, that is a good workaround, thank you for adding that idea. Now I am trying to recall everything they said in law school about using “straw men!”<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">You might consider an LLC with their attorney as the sole manager. A trust could also be used with their attorney or some other person as the trustee. But I do not know
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wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sarah J. Dion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 15, 2021 3:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Purchasing property so it is hard to trace ownership<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all-<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">PC and spouse want to purchase real estate in such a way that it is difficult for anyone to determine ownership. In this situation, the privacy concern isn’t paranoia-- there is a child and a no contact order with a dangerous individual,
so it is critical that no one be able to search for their address using their names. They are part of a program in WA called Address Confidentiality.
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<p class="MsoNormal">The first thing I thought of is a revocable trust with a name that does not include PCs’ names, but I am wondering if ultimately, the name of the trustee/s will need to be on any documents that are recorded. Does anyone know what the limitations
on this process are? Ideally, neither of their names is on any documents that are searchable.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would also love to know if there is any way to add a layer of protection to this to make it more difficult to trace without giving up control of the trust to a third party?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for any advice you have! <o:p></o:p></p>
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