<html><body><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#000000; font-size:12pt;"><div>The usual question if they are not listed are is there a spouse and if there are minors. </div><div><br></div><div><img id="sigimg0" title="signature image" src="cid:sigimg0@3aac2e4419fdefd74671f6d2d83a22a6" border="0" alt=""></div><div><br><br></div>
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Listing Blood Relatives of Probate<br>
From: <<a href="mailto:Jeff@bellanddavispllc.com">Jeff@bellanddavispllc.com</a>><br>
Date: Tue, March 09, 2021 1:43 pm<br>
To: "'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv'" <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
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</style><div class="WordSection1"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">Eric,<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">You are right. I have never had push-back for listing “heirs” even when they do not take under the Will. The problem is the clients are not from here and have a big distrust of our system. Why, I don’t know. I did cite the wrong notice statute, but you cited the correct provision. I conclude I do not have to list the “heirs” in the petition but must give them notice of the proceeding. The only difference is, since the Will names the client as PR, I do not need to provide the notice under 11.28.330(3), regarding the time to challenge the appointment. <o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">Thanks for the input.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">Jeff<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Nelsen<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 9, 2021 1:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Listing Blood Relatives of Probate<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">So the objection is only to listing the names <i>in the Petition</i>, and there is no objection to providing Notice of Appointment afterward?<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">I do it so routinely that I’ve never questioned the practice of listing everyone in the Petition.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">I would compare the Will-probate statutes, RCW 11.20.020 and RCW 11.28.010, to the intestacy requirements, RCW 11.28.110. Seems to me from the statutes that proving a Will does not require listing <i>anyone</i> in that Petition, heir or not. The requirement of listing the heirs in the Petition seems to come from the intestacy procedure, RCW 11.28.110. But under either circumstance, notice of appointment and pendency of probate must be served on all heirs at law as well as all beneficiaries under the Will (if there is one). RCW 11.28.237.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">In King County at least, the practice of listing heirs and Will beneficiaries in the petition is so routine, one might get pushback from a commissioner if it’s not done. Even if there is no strict legal requirement.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">I might ask more to find out what the underlying issue is. Maybe it’s just the symbolism of listing them in the Petition, but maybe they are under a misunderstanding about what it signifies to have the name in the petition (basically, nothing).<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">Eric<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">Eric C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">Sayre Law Offices, PLLC<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">1417 31st Ave South<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">Seattle WA 98144-3909<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">206-625-0092<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><a target="_blank" href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a><o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="background:aqua;mso-highlight:aqua">Covid-19 Update - </span></b>All attorneys are working remotely during regular business hours and are available via email and by phone. Videoconferencing also is available. Signing of estate planning documents can be completed and will be handled on a case-by-case basis. Please direct mail and deliveries to the Seattle office.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b>From:</b> <a target="_blank" href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b><a target="_blank" href="mailto:Jeff@bellanddavispllc.com">Jeff@bellanddavispllc.com</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 9, 2021 11:47 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv' <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Listing Blood Relatives of Probate<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">Listmates:<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">Decedent’s Will names his step-children as sole heirs. One step-child, who is the named PR, strenuously objects to listing the decedent’s living blood relatives as heirs in the petition to admit the Will to probate. He wants their names removed from the petition. Question is do we need to list the blood relatives in the Petition, or just give them notice of the appointment and a copy of the Will? RCW 11.28.330 seem to say just give heirs notice of the appointment and their right to contest the appointment within four months?<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">Jeff Davis<o:p></o:p></div></div><hr>***Disclaimer: Please note that RPPT listserv participation is not restricted to practicing attorneys and may include non-practicing attorneys, law students, professionals working in related fields, and others.***<br>
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