<div dir="ltr">Thank you all for your helpful responses. You've given me some good ideas as to the structure of the gifts and some additional important considerations to address as well.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 9:04 AM Mark Vohr <<a href="mailto:mcv@ohanafc.com">mcv@ohanafc.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> We administer a number of Pet Trusts. It’s always best to coordinate as much as possible what, exactly, is to happen when the pet parent dies. As we all know, animals, not
just pets, but livestock as well, need immediate attention. There are medical issues, housing issues, and the simple need to maintain contact. The most important thing is to plan for what is going to happen on the day the owner dies and the immediate future.
For instance, who is taking the pet that day? Who is feeding the livestock, milking cows, checking fences, crates, the house, is the pet confined etc.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> I bring this up, because the question mentions that this is not for care, which causes me to wonder what is the mechanism for care? In any event, one needs to concentrate on
who has authority and what that authority is. Pets are personal property, in addition to being living things. For instance, if you are not creating a trust, then would it be the personal representative responsible for placement? If so, then the fiduciary
duty lies there. Is that OK with the PR? If not the PR, then a friend, beneficiary? What if they fail to serve, can’t refuses, etc. Was is the legal structure for dealing with the failure on the part of the “friend”. Would it be a constructive trust
situation? If you have a trust, and a trustee (or convince the PR to take this on), at least you have someone with a duty to act.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> This is a complicated area in a number of respects, and often pet parents don’t fully appreciate the challenges that the fiduciary may face. So locking in a plan is critical.
I will add that we have some estates where the pets (birds, for instance) are given to someone who actually wants them along with a payments of some sum that is enough to pay for the care for the pets through then end of life. While often relying on the person
to “do the right thing”, that tends to be the least complicated way to handle pets, but, as noted above, really requires the pet parent to do the work.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Regards, <u></u>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Mark<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Mark C. Vohr, Esq.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Ohana Fiduciary Corp.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Ohana Financial Services<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">A Washington Trust Company<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Mark C. Vohr, J.D., CPG, Principal<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 18, 2020 5:54 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Pet Question<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Happy Friday Afternoon, here's an interesting question for anyone still glued to their computer this evening:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If a client wants to make a person (not the Personal Representative) responsible for finding a suitable home for his or her pets, and then leave a specific gift of funds to the person who undertakes to place the pets in a home, how would
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<p class="MsoNormal">It's not a pet trust (I don't think). The funds are NOT intended for the care of the animal. They are intended to compensate the person who undertakes to find the animals a home. And yet, the role the appointee is being asked to serve is
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<p class="MsoNormal">Would you structure it as a specific gift of the pets and then a specific gift of funds conditioned on first finding the pets a home? Or would you try to draft it as a pet trust? Talk the client out of this plan? Other approaches?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Open to your thoughts, ideas, and considerable experience.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Warmly,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Laura<u></u><u></u></p>
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