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Per the ACTEC website, you can use RON for notarization of EP docs, but not witnessing. I would love to hear from RONs or firms with RONs about how this option is working.
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</span><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Landerholm, P.S. is committed to following the recommendations and requirements regarding COVID-19 as outlined by various government agencies.<br>
We are working and available to assist you by phone, video conferencing and through email. For the time being we’ve modified our daily operations but closed our office to the public.<br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">On Nov 16, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Lewis, Amy C. <<a href="mailto:ALewis@eisenhowerlaw.com">ALewis@eisenhowerlaw.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">We have one staff person in our office who is licensed as a remote online notary. We have used this service successfully for deeds and other non-estate planning related documents.
My understanding is that it is not permitted for powers of attorney or other estate planning documents. However, under the new power of attorney statute, RCW 11.125.050(1), you have the option of using two witnesses in place of a notary.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><u><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">WE'RE MOVING!</span></u></strong> As of 1/1/21 we will be at:
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kerry Brink<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 16, 2020 5:50 PM<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> Diana McCormack <<a href="mailto:Dmccormack@vjglaw.com">Dmccormack@vjglaw.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Remote Notary?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Being able to meet clients to notarize Powers of Attorney or deeds is now a significant challenge. Are any of you remote notaries? Or have you worked with a remote notary that you trust?
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">I am very interested in learning how to use this service!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Thank you for any information/experience you can share!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">~Kerry Brink<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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