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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Is there any reason that this even needs to be a probate for husband who died in 1976? Why not a lack of probate affidavit, adjudication of intestacy and heirship, or something similar. Check with your favorite
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<p class="MsoNormal">Inge,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Attached is a petition I used a few years ago in the situation you are in. We did not have any problem completing the probates.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Inge Fordham <<a href="mailto:inge@fordhamlegal.com">inge@fordhamlegal.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 22, 2020 4:27 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Colleagues,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Has anyone attempted to open a joint probate where one spouse died intestate and the second spouse died testate? I am trying to save my client the added expense of having to commence two separate probates but don’t know that I can under
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<p class="MsoNormal">DH died intestate in 1976, sole asset was real community property. Title was never cleared to remove DH. Then DW died testate in 2020 leaving her entire estate (including the same real property) to her spouse. Son of DH and DW is willing
to serve as administrator and personal representative (he is the named PR in DW’s will). Can I file a joint petition for probate of will, appointment of administrator and personal representative, and order granting nonintervention powers? Or must I file
separately? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would like to know if anyone has attempted this and, if so, whether they were able to file jointly. Thanks in advance for any insight!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> on behalf of Jeff Davis <<a href="mailto:jeff@bellanddavispllc.com">jeff@bellanddavispllc.com</a>><br>
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<b>Reply-To: </b>"<a href="mailto:jeff@bellanddavispllc.com">jeff@bellanddavispllc.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:jeff@bellanddavispllc.com">jeff@bellanddavispllc.com</a>>, WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
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<b>To: </b>'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv' <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [WSBAPT] 2 probates?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Attached is a form I use to start a joint probate; it can be modified if there is only one Will with the other intestate. It is an easy, cost effective, way to handle this situation.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jeff Davis.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jenna:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">At least in Skagit County, when I have the situation as you describe, if both wills are the same, I have done joint or “double” probates under one cause number and filing fee with no problem.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 2, 2020 1:47 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ms. Brozik,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We quite often open a combined probate under one cause of action, and filing fee, having both wills admitted. The Personal Representative can then sign one deed for the joint estate transferring the property to whomever is or are the grantee(s).
There are other options for dealing with the father’s interest, but I believe a joint probate is the best route. When in doubt, however, check with your local title company and see what they want in order to insure title.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jeff Davis.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 2, 2020 1:25 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] 2 probates?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My client's mother just passed away. There is land in Washington in his mother's name and his late father's name. The father passed away several years ago but no probate was done.
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<p class="MsoNormal">There is no community property agreement. The father and mother both had wills that said everything goes to the children in equal shares if their spouse has passed away. The daughter is the PR in both wills.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Does it make sense to open up two probates, one for the father and one for the mother, (to transfer the father's interest to the PR) or just open up one for the mother and transfer the property from the mother and father's name to the two
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<p class="MsoNormal">Any comments are welcome.<o:p></o:p></p>
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