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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">With a carefully drafted Health Care Durable Power of Attorney, empowering the agent to deliver and interpret any advance directive, it is clear who gets to decide that “it’s time” or not.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I would not put language in the directive itself. In fact, I generally have clients execute very standard medical directives and put together additional instructions for their agents as circumstances warrant,
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Neumiller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 10, 2020 4:14 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">But But But. I am so confused. Why even do this?!?! I thought we were all trying to avoid the Terri Schiavo problem where her parents wanted Terri hooked up forever and
he husband wanted to disconnect her. If you state that the person declines to state a preference, then aren’t you defeating the purpose of a HCD? What’s to stop all of the family members arguing on what to do now?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Laurel Brown<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 10, 2020 3:50 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I do not know if this fulfills your need, but what I have done for clients in the past who want their Healthcare POA to make the decisions re. advanced healthcare directive, I have added the following to the advanced healthcare directive
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">( ) If I initial here I DECLINE to make a decision and leave the decision to my Healthcare Durable Power
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 3:23 PM Laura Latta <<a href="mailto:laura@lauralatta.com">laura@lauralatta.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I've had a request that's a first for me, but not unreasonable. Client wants their healthcare directive to be contingent on the client's spouse being unavailable (predeceased or also incapacitated). Meaning that if the spouse (named as
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<p class="MsoNormal">Has anyone done this before? What are some legal or practical pitfalls to consider? Does anyone have language to this effect they would be willing to share? <o:p></o:p></p>
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