<div dir="ltr">Absolutely, I have advised the client that in reality this is a process and a dialogue with the agent. They are asking for specific language none-the-less. Do you think such language would merely reinforce the normal process of implementing the directive, rather than create unforseen issues?</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 3:37 PM Heather de Vrieze <<a href="mailto:heatherd@westseattlelaw.com">heatherd@westseattlelaw.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">My general experience is that these are always essentially a tool of the named agent under a health care durable power of attorney, or next of kin who are empowered to deliver and enforce these documents.
I have not seen a facility or doctor willing to act based on a directive alone, but to require the appropriate decision maker to consent.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">Accordingly, I think if the spouse is the first named agent under a health care DPOA, if the spouse is capable, but not consenting, it will not be enforced. If the spouse is deceased or unable, the next named
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<p class="MsoNormal">I've had a request that's a first for me, but not unreasonable. Client wants their healthcare directive to be contingent on the client's spouse being unavailable (predeceased or also incapacitated). Meaning that if the spouse (named as
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<p class="MsoNormal">Has anyone done this before? What are some legal or practical pitfalls to consider? Does anyone have language to this effect they would be willing to share? <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks in advance for your thoughts and expertise.<u></u><u></u></p>
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