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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">Believe it or not, I just would call in the past and I usually (somehow but it’s been awhile) had the case manager’s name, which led me to the extension, which led me to that person.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Script MT Bold"">Diane J. Kiepe<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Diane J. Kiepe<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Josh Grant<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 11, 2020 12:49 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] To probate or not to probate<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black">I’ve got one of these with a limited assets and an unkown Medicaid lien. Client has received the Estate REcovery Questionaire, so I have the client ID # and I have the Social. Diane, Where do
you send the request for the amount of the Medicaid claim? The decedent on this one was under 60.</span><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#004080">Joshua F. Grant</span></strong><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#004080"><br>
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</span><span style="color:#004080">P. O. Box 619<br>
Wilbur, WA 99185<br>
509 647 5578</span><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"> Diane J. Kiepe
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"> Tuesday, August 11, 2020 12:27 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"> Re: [WSBAPT] To probate or not to
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;color:black">I have found DSHS very forthcoming when I have the social security of the decedent but times are changing so I am not sure if they are still that way. I have gotten lien information with just
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;color:black">Regarding probate where lien is larger DSHS will negotiate with a PR. I have had it done in 2 estates I have been involved in.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;color:black">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Script MT Bold";color:black">Diane J. Kiepe<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Diane J. Kiepe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Douglas Eden<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">717 W. Sprague Ave.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black">
<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon Fritzler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 11, 2020 11:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] To probate or not to probate<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Where a decedent was receiving Medicaid, is it possible for a next of kin to find out the amount of the claim that the state will have against the decedent’s estate
before opening a probate? Or is that information that the state will only provide to the personal representative?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Where the amount of the Medicaid claim exceeds the value of the decedent’s assets, do you advise a prospective personal representative/heir that if they choose to
probate the estate they will receive only a reasonable personal representative’s fee? Or is it possible to negotiate with estate recovery for something more?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Sincerely,<br>
Jon M. Fritzler<br>
Attorney at Law<br>
PO Box 61451<br>
Vancouver, WA 98666<br>
Tel. 360.818.4431<br>
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