<html><body><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#000000; font-size:12pt;"><div>Very helpful - Thanks Jill </div><div><br></div><div><img id="sigimg0" title="signature image" src="cid:sigimg0@e253d7c082b53a47f3fd690e15487b4d" border="0" alt=""></div><div><br><br></div>
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Real property given to daughter but spouse 's name<br>
put on due to refinance<br>
From: "Jill H. Sasser" <<a href="mailto:Jill.Sasser@landerholm.com">Jill.Sasser@landerholm.com</a>><br>
Date: Thu, July 02, 2020 9:29 am<br>
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
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</style> <br> <div class="WordSection1"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Oh geez.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thoughts—he never “gifted” the property to daughter if she is not on the deed or other transfer document. This is important for daughter to understand. She is named as the beneficiary in the Will, which is really different. As you pointed out, since decedent didn’t update the Will, the omitted spouse statute would apply. As would the family support award statute. So wife is almost certainly going to get something.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">You need to determine the character of the property—is it separate or community? Look at the Borghi case. <o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">How were the mortgage/expenses being paid? Even if you can argue that the property is separate, is there a marital lien for the payments of mortgage/expenses/labor, etc.?<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Granddaughter should consider a creditor claim for caregiving if she was not compensated. That sometimes works, depending on whether her living expenses were covered by the decedent or not. <o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">How much equity is in the house? Is this worth fighting over?<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Is widow able to eject now? Can granddaughter stay in the house under the eviction moratorium, or is widow exempt from the moratorium?<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Does wife have an attorney? Can you negotiate some kind of global resolution that gives everyone something?<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">This is a tough case—good luck! <o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Jill <o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <br> <font color="Gray"> <font size="3"> <font face="calibri"> <strong> Jill H. Sasser | Attorney at Law </strong> <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td><img border="0" src="cid:120070212292601336@us-mta-465.us.mimecast.lan" wbeuser="michael@westseattleattorney.com"></td></tr></tbody></table> <font color="black"> <font face="calibri"> <font size="2"> 805 Broadway Street, Suite 1000 <br> P.O. Box 1086 <br> Vancouver, WA 98666-1086 <br> <font color="Orange"> <font face="calibri"> <font size="2"> T: 360-816-2534 | T: 503-283-3393 | F: 360-816-2535 </font> <br> <font color="Orange"> <font face="calibri"> <font size="2"> <a href="http://www.landerholm.com">www.landerholm.com</a> <br> <br> <font color="black"><font size="3"><b> Landerholm, P.S. is committed to following the recommendations and requirements regarding COVID-19 as outlined by various government agencies.<br> We are working and available to assist you by phone, video conferencing and through email. For the time being we’ve modified our daily operations but closed our office to the public.<br> </b> <br> <font color="black"> <font size="2"> <font face="calibri"> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:michael@westseattleattorney.com">michael@westseattleattorney.com</a><br> <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 2, 2020 9:15 AM<br> <b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Real property given to daughter but spouse 's name put on due to refinance<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black">Hi: Well facts are that 2001 Will gives daughter real property. H marries in 2003 and never redid will so Widow is omitted spouse and can get up to 1/2 of the separate property. So even if Daughter prevailed, widow still gets "up to half" plus maybe up to $125k for spousal award, right? <o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black">In any event, Deed was a limited license from prepared by escrow who did refinance. The wording has the operative language "to create community property" but I do not think it is controlling as there is no evidence that the decedent was advised by an attorney as to what that deed legally would do. <o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="color:black">Current issue is widow trying to take possession of house and kick out granddaughter who was there caring for the decedent - she has to go sometime but now widow posted a 60 day notice. </span></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black">Suggestions? <o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black"><img width="500" height="100" style="width:5.2083in;height:1.0416in" id="sigimg0" src="cid:image001.png@01D65053.3C228050" wbeuser="michael@westseattleattorney.com"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> </div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" id="replyBlockquote"> <div id="wmQuoteWrapper"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">-------- Original Message --------<br> Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Real property given to daughter but spouse 's name<br> put on due to refinance<br> From: "Jill H. Sasser" <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:Jill.Sasser@landerholm.com">Jill.Sasser@landerholm.com</a>><br> Date: Thu, July 02, 2020 8:18 am<br> To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> <br> <br> What does the deed exactly say? Are wife and daughter both on title?<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><br> <br> <o:p></o:p></span></div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><br> </span><strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:gray">Jill H. Sasser | Attorney at Law </span></strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:gray"><o:p></o:p></span></div> <table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><img border="0" width="210" height="47" style="width:2.1916in;height:.4916in" id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image002.jpg@01D65053.3C228050" wbeuser="michael@westseattleattorney.com"><o:p></o:p></div> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">805 Broadway Street, Suite 1000 <br> P.O. Box 1086 <br> Vancouver, WA 98666-1086 <br> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:orange">T: 360-816-2534 | T: 503-283-3393 | F: 360-816-2535 <br> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.landerholm.com">www.landerholm.com</a> <br> <br> </span><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Landerholm, P.S. is committed to following the recommendations and requirements regarding COVID-19 as outlined by various government agencies.<br> We are working and available to assist you by phone, video conferencing and through email. For the time being we’ve modified our daily operations but closed our office to the public.<br> </span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><br> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On Jul 2, 2020, at 8:08 AM, "<a target="_blank" href="mailto:michael@westseattleattorney.com">michael@westseattleattorney.com</a>" <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:michael@westseattleattorney.com">michael@westseattleattorney.com</a>> wrote:</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </blockquote> </div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black">H gifted his real property to daughter but widow 's name had been put on title due to refinance - widow doesn't accept that it was not a gift and wants to take possession. What does PR need to do ? 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